Stalling when just going along - Farm Pro 2420

[greg_g]

Well, in the case of the Jinma 200 series - it's not entirely the manufactuer's fault. The majority of that product line is made for domestic (Chinese) consumption, which usually means no power steering. Without PS, pressure relief is provided inside the lift box.

But American importers stipulated power steering - and fixed a price they were willing to pay for it. So they got what they paid for, which ended up to be that pigtail which was QD'd through a priority valve on the way to resuming the OE hydraulic loop.

That's just one example of how importers dictate customization, then fall short of actually paying to have it done right. The subsequent fact that the Chinese engineers deliver what the importers ask for has far less to do with sound design than it does with how much money the importers would pay for the option. Early Jinma owner complaints about undersized clutches, battery placement, breather housing location, et cetera can actually be blamed almost solely upon early importers with tight pockets.

//greg//

 

[Soundguy]

And in the end.. it's the end user that suffere because, the product as a whole.. is flawed... don't matter who scr#wed the pooch before the consumer got it.. it's the end result that 'shows'. With chinese labor as cheap as it is, couldn't they melt down a few more cars and antique tractors, and install a seperate relief valve.. once you figure in mass production, virtually free -slave- style labor, and low end metalurgy and casting technology.. I bet a 'upgrade' non-blowing up valve could be added for 5$ of manufacturing cost, per item.. etc.. Looking at the cost of spare parts spoken about here that you can order with the unit.. etc.. I don't think that is out of line. Not to hard to tap a fitting into the existing pump housing.. or a 'T' looping valve that exhausts back to the feed line... Lets face it.. aside from all the techno talk about a relief valve.. what are we really looking at... a spring and a ball and a seat... taint' rocket science...

soundguy

 

[Red55]

. taint' rocket science...

soundguy

Your both right but when in comes to manufacturing pennys matter! I remember when one of our American big 3 auto manufacturers deleted the radiator drain plug to save 2 cents ! A lousy 2cents on a car? Keep your paper matts and save a few dollars!!! I just brought a lawnmower and decided on a Honda engine. Old Honda lawnmower lasted over 20yrs, saw serious mowing and almost always started on the first pull. After the first cut I went to dump the oil and no drain! Geezse another 2-cent beancounter strikes again! AND on a high quality "Japanese" manufacturer product. Would I be correct in assuming these new engines don't need oil changes any more? Thought maybe it was just my model so I checked out the other Honda Lawnmowers and no drain plugs. Manual tells ya to dump oil outta fill /dipstick hole. Hope you don't have a hot muffer and a full tank of gas. . Well just my 2 cents -Ed

 

[Soundguy]

Yep.. Invert engine to drain sump.. gotta love that..

soundguy

 

[redneckford]

Nope!!!they want you to buy a brake bleeder pump kit----you spend they save----hope you don't change oil regularly because of the trouble and have to buy a new one sooner that "20" years.

 

[Soundguy]

Kinda like the people that make 'sealed' gearboxes that are not 'normally' user serviceable... saves the manufacturer money.. and has a designed lifespan meaning the user will ahve to buy another eventually..e tc.


soundguy