Started rebuilding my shop!

[alan40]

Re: Progress on day 2

Hi Pete, this sounds like another good reason for a TBN get together!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Have to break in the new shop and what better way then to fill it with tractor stories and maybe a little something to drink also!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Boy it looks nice. Bet you can't wait until it's done.
Take care!

 

[MossRoad]

Why not just tack on Day2 or Day3 at the end of the title, so that the main subject stays the same? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'd like to follow your post, too. Looks good, so far. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[5030]

Gatorboy:

Where is the cigar???

 

[Boondox]

Shop rebuild insulation question

I was all set to use that spray-in insulation on the roofline, with 6" between the rafters. But now that I've decided to include a loft for lumber storage instead of tucking the boards way up in the "attic" space, the extra expense of the foam doesn't seem like such a deal. If I drywall in the cathedral ceiling and install R38 fiberglass up there I could save $1000.

If it was my house I would go with the foam. But this is a 16x28' shop. With good insulation, that woodstove of mine will get it toasty warm in no time. Heck, even with the missing insulation before the refab, I had to open the door in the dead of winter lest I pass out from the heat!

What would you guys do?

Pete

 

[OkeeDon]

Re: Shop rebuild insulation question

Hmm. Save a thousand bucks and still be warm enough...let me think... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[Boondox]

Re: Shop rebuild insulation question

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Hmm. Save a thousand bucks and still be warm enough... )</font>

When you put it that way, it makes a lot of sense. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif But then we have this little ice dam problem up here in Vermont. Sounds like the foam (hot roofing) would be a much better way of avoiding them forever...

Pete

 

[bebster]

Re: Shop rebuild insulation question

Pete,
It's a little confusing to me about where you are planning to put the insulation. If you make an attic, and insulate the ceiling under the loft floor, you'll have a cold attic and cold roof. If you insulate the roof between the rafters you should still have a cold roof (or else you're heating the outside and the insulation isn't doing its job). Maybe I'm missing something though.

 

[Boondox]

Re: Shop rebuild insulation question

Sorry. Two options:

1) Hot roofing: spraying foam between the rafters right up against the wooden sheathing with no air gap. All the hot air is kept inside the structure, with no venting. In addition to the ice dam question, I'm also wondering how foam stands up to age and especially the heat directly above the woodstove.

2) Conventional insulation: no insulation between the rafters. R38 insulation between the ceiling joists with the void above that vented at the gable ends or via a ridge vent.

Hope this clarifies. Pete

 

[Boondox]

Re: Shop rebuild end of week 1

Got the building sheathed and the vapor barrier up. Ice shield is partly up. Windows went in today. Soffits are in. Will cut the passthru for the Metalbestos stovepipe this afternoon. Metal roofing is onsite as is the trim. Should have the shiplap for the exterior soon and will install that soon as the weather permits. The forecast high for tomorrow is 3 degrees, so I might work on the inside. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Have I mentioned how tiring this is? I go to bed exhausted at 9, but wake up at 2am itching to get going again! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Pete

 

[Spencer]

Re: Shop rebuild end of week 1

Pete, your project looks great but slow down. You're making some of us look bad by getting so much done so soon. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[Boondox]

Re: Shop rebuild end of week 1

Slow down heck! It's cold out there! Gotta generate some body heat! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Once I get the outside done and some insulation inside, I can light the woodstove and slow down a bit. If I play my cards right, I might be able to play out there (um, I mean work) the rest of the winter without the wife assigning me busy work!

Pete

 

[Boondox]

Shop Rebuild Day 8

Minus 22 degrees this morning, warming to a balmy minus 9 by lunchtime. Even standing so close by the burn pile my gloves started smoking I couldn't get those fingers to work! So I decided to work inside the shell. Got most of the ceiling insulated, the wiring for the overhead lights and ceiling fan in place, and most importantly -- got the woodstove set up and generating some heat! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tomorrow: more dump runs and a start on wiring the shop. Looks like next Monday we'll have a heat wave (low to mid twenties), so till then I'll find things to do inside! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Pete

 

[tc35dforme]

Re: Shop Rebuild Day 8

Hold on Pete....end of next week looks just as cold /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[yooperdave]

Re: Shop Rebuild Day 8

Hi Pete,

Are you using a ridge beam to keep the eave walls from spreading, or how are you stabilizing the roof?

Did you provide proper vents at the eaves with a ridge vent at the peak?

Is there also a 2" air space between the top of the insulation and the bottom of the sheathing for air flow?

Just wondering before everything was buttoned up.

Good luck with your project.

Yooper Dave

 

[Boondox]

Re: Shop Rebuild Day 8

Yes, yes, and yes. I used a continuous soffit vent, and will be installing a ridge vent as well...once the daytime temp hits at least zero!

Pete

 

[Egon]

Re: Shop Rebuild Day 8

You be a bear for self flagellation Pete.

Egon

 

[alan40]

Re: Shop Rebuild Day 8

Sounds like your moving right along Pete. This cold will slow down your outside work. Lucky you have a nice wood stove in your shop. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gifI have to fire brick my evaporator tomorrow. Even inside the sugar house it will be chilly. I'll have to get that kerosene heater up to max heat quickly. It's built pretty well and in a couple of hours I can have it up to 30-40 degrees. A good work temp for cutting fire bricks.
When I get finished and start boiling I'll call your wife and invite her down to see the operation. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Just in case you need another project anytime soon. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Take care and stay warm!!!!

 

[Boondox]

Re: Shop Rebuild Day 8

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( When I get finished and start boiling I'll call your wife and invite her down to see the operation. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Just in case you need another project anytime soon. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Take care and stay warm!!!! )</font>

What a pal! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Just don't let her stay inside and come back thinking sugaring is a warm and cozy pastime!

Pete

 

[mdloops]

A lot of work ahead of you!

 

[countrybumpkin]

A lot of work ahead of you!

I'm going to guess that he's finished with this , seeing how it was 12 YEARS AGO !!!