Starter or Electrical

[woodchuckie]

Was trying to start my Kuboto 2800 (not hydro-stat) jumping it off as usual because its been weeks since I've used it. I was using one of those portable battery thing and it wouldn't start it so and the last thing I heard was from the starter. Sounded like when the starter won't quite turn, just click. I hooked up my regular charger with a 50 amp booster. I got nothing at all. All circuits were dead. No lights, no hazard, no heater coil?.
I put voltage directly to the starter to see if it would work. It didn't. No blown fuses. I put the charger back on the battery just to finish charging while I left to take care of other things. The lights now worked so I tried the switch again and heard the loud click(just one) from the starter and everything is dead again. So should I take the starter off and is there a way to test it.

 

[Shaneard]

If everything is dying you have a bad battery cable or connection. Check that first and go from there.

 

[buickanddeere]

Use a voltmeter and locate the fault instead of guessing, much cheaper and faster than random replacement parts.

 

[Shaneard]

Use a voltmeter and locate the fault instead of guessing, much cheaper and faster than random replacement parts.

I wouldn't randomly replace any parts, I'd check the battery cable ends. More than likely it's a positive end corroded but could be the negative side. Clean one end or the other on the positive cable and that's probably it. I guess I should have been more specific in my first post

 

[Xfaxman]

Get a good digital multimeter, here is how to use it: How to Use a Multimeter

Here is how to troubleshoot the starter circuit: Starter Voltage Drop - YouTube

 

[George2615]

When checking the cables, check the ends where they attach to the starter and frame and not just at the battery.

 

[woodchuckie]

Ok thanks for the info. I'll get right on it now that I have a little time.

 

[Stimw]

You also might TAP on the side of the starter with a hammer in case the brushes have moisture under them.
But the cables do sound suspect.

 

[grsthegreat]

I had a service call on a generator that was doing the same thing you described. I replaced the battery and same thing happened. screen went dark and just a loud clunk sound. I traced the ground wire to the point of attachment and i could swivel the thing by hand. it worked loose even with lock washer. re tightened everything and put the old battery back inplace. fired right up

 

[mjym]

hi i had the same trouble with my bx and i clean all the battery cable and all the wire going to the starter and the ground and its start like a new tractor and got the same battery 2005 bx 1830 640 hr

 

[Egon]

If everything is dying you have a bad battery cable or connection. Check that first and go from there.

That is the starting point.

You may want to disconnect the old battery and try a boost from the battery cable ends with a good battery. That should define he battery status.

 

[LD1]

A bad starter wouldnt cause everything else to be dead.

Most "chargers" wont jump start by hooking direct to a starter. So that is a false test.

Agree, get a volt meter and learn to use it. Everything else is just guessing. Sure, you may get lucky, but thats a crapshoot

 

[topbuilder]

9 times out of 10 the battery is the culprit. When they die, they will hardly even take a jump.

 

[Shaneard]

9 times out of 10 the battery is the culprit. When they die, they will hardly even take a jump.

When the starter clicks and everything dies, it's usually not the battery but a cable end.

 

[Soundguy]

start by removing the battery.. celan posts, service it, slow charge it.. then load test it.

clean terminal ends of cables.

see what bat drops to during start attempt. if not past 10, but no start, put volt meter across hot cable first from bat to starter and check.. then next from bat ground post to where the cable grounds.

look for your big voltage drop.

 

[newbury]

When the starter clicks and everything dies, it's usually not the battery but a cable end.

But not always.
Take into account the age of the battery.
Had one battery that had enough juice that twice it passed the NAPA guys load test, but not the third time. It had just enough juice so it would barely make the click when trying to start. Replaced battery, everything worked fine.