Starting at -10F

[Egon]

For what works check out what's used in cold country.

 

[fried1765]

For what works check out what's used in cold country.

I lived in REALLY "cold country" for 24 years. A place known as Minnesota.
Minnesota is one he11 of a lot colder than Nova Scotia.
At 76 years of age I have had quite a variety of block heaters, and tank heaters.
I would not use a magnetic heater in Minnesota.
I do not now live anywhere near Minnesota!

 

[skyhook]

Up here in Canada, anything below -10C, I plug in the block heater and leave it plugged all night and day as long as it remains that cold, I also have a battery tender that goes along with this and in -20C, two or three fast turns of the starter and she starts right up. 4 cylinder perkins in my hoe.

 

[Egon]

I lived in REALLY "cold country" for 24 years. A place known as Minnesota.
Minnesota is one he11 of a lot colder than Nova Scotia.
At 76 years of age I have had quite a variety of block heaters, and tank heaters.
I would not use a magnetic heater in Minnesota.
I do not now live anywhere near Minnesota!

And most of my life was spent in much Colder Climes than Nova Scotia. ( some places with no electricity or block heaters, hot coals in the ash pan! )

And there will be places much colder than where most of my life was spent.

 

[check]

Up here in Canada, anything below -10C, I plug in the block heater and leave it plugged all night and day as long as it remains that cold, I also have a battery tender that goes along with this and in -20C, two or three fast turns of the starter and she starts right up. 4 cylinder perkins in my hoe.

The problem with 24/7 block heating is the electricity consumption. It can really add up! And we paid absolutely obscene prices for electricity here in Ontario.

It is below -10°F lots of the time up north where my tractor is, but I just plug-in the OEM Kubota block heater on my BX25 maybe a couple of hours before I need to start it. Seems to work fine, because the tractor starts right up!

 

[Egon]

Sometimes folks put the block heater on a timer to save electricity. ( on/off for ?? Minutes )

 

[daugen]

now I know this was only 12 degrees and not minus 12..., but was pleased the Massey started in about three seconds, didn't smoke or bang all that much. My first Youtube video...not going to win any awards on this one underneath exhaust, nothing to record
Massey Cold start - YouTube

 

[check]

Sometimes folks put the block heater on a timer to save electricity. ( on/off for ?? Minutes )

I'm not sure that such a good idea. Having the temperature constantly changing like that may be harmful to some parts of the tractor. Any opinions on this?

 

[skyhook]

The problem with 24/7 block heating is the electricity consumption. It can really add up! And we paid absolutely obscene prices for electricity here in Ontario.

It is below -10°F lots of the time up north where my tractor is, but I just plug-in the OEM Kubota block heater on my BX25 maybe a couple of hours before I need to start it. Seems to work fine, because the tractor starts right up!

I hear ya, but like I said, its only when the temps are extremely cold. I see your in TO, I'm near Ottawa near/on the Ottawa river. And I am contracted out, the extra 30 or 40 bucks a month is well worth the money to get those quick start-up's for me. When the temp rises above -10C, I do what you do.

 

[buickanddeere]

:laughing:You got er done that's what counts!

Shortened engine life compared to a warm start.

 

[jabelding]

I'm not sure that such a good idea. Having the temperature constantly changing like that may be harmful to some parts of the tractor. Any opinions on this?

Never going to be a problem, remember when it is 30 F out and the tractor engine heats up to 200F 170deg difference, -10 to 200F 210 deg difference its a very small percentage of the operating range. The normal use of a tractor getting up to temp is a much bigger percentage than the block heater warmth.

 

[Looking4new]

I have two magnetic heaters and they are doing a fantastic job of collecting dust on the shelf.
My electric block heater I plug into the tractor whenever the temp is below freezing and I am expected to work the tractor the next day. 4 hours minimum and she will start right up.

 

[MHarryE]

My nephew bought a used Kubota M110GX this fall that was only equipped with the magnetic oil pan heater. It started, with difficulty, down to 0°F but this past week we had a couple mornings colder than -30°F where he had to use a kerosene heater and a tarp over the tractor to get it running. The dealer is supposed to have a block heater here this week for installation. My M135GX will handle the -30°F fine with its block heater but I am glad that is only a few days each winter. At least we don't get the -50°F mornings like we did when I was growing up on this farm.

 

[daugen]

well I think we all agree magnetic block heaters aren't the best answer, since there are several better solutions, but they can be an answer, particularly if you buy a 300+ watt unit and aren't trying to heat 15 gallons of oil. And you aren't in Northern Ontario, which most of us are not. L4New, did your two heaters not work well enough so that's why you installed the block heater? I agree, block heater is first choice.

I think the question about repeated heat, cool, heat, cool might have been one of condensation building up during the cooling cycle. ?

 

[TomSeller]

well I think we all agree magnetic block heaters aren't the best answer, since there are several better solutions, but they can be an answer, particularly if you buy a 300+ watt unit and aren't trying to heat 15 gallons of oil. And you aren't in Northern Ontario, which most of us are not. L4New, did your two heaters not work well enough so that's why you installed the block heater? I agree, block heater is first choice. ?

also if you can place the magnetic heater under the engine on the bottom of the oil pan, the excess heat will rise around the block a little and up from inside the oil pan. Not ideal, but better than sticking it in some places on the side of the engine. Certainly not much help in -30 cold. You need to leave it there for quite a while to help. Just my $0.02.

 

[Looking4new]

well I think we all agree magnetic block heaters aren't the best answer, since there are several better solutions, but they can be an answer, particularly if you buy a 300+ watt unit and aren't trying to heat 15 gallons of oil. And you aren't in Northern Ontario, which most of us are not. L4New, did your two heaters not work well enough so that's why you installed the block heater? I agree, block heater is first choice.

I think the question about repeated heat, cool, heat, cool might have been one of condensation building up during the cooling cycle. ?

I had bought the two heaters for my Farmall C. Then found out the Farmall would start in any temps with the hand crank. 2 kids under 16 at home and me away on the road 28 days/month. I had took the starter off and it was in the back seat of my car. Knowing full well that the kids wouldn't try to start her on the crank. (No key switch on them old Farmalls).
When I ordered the Kioti, I insisted on a block heater. I should have insisted on two.

 

[arizona98tj]

I have a Massey Ferguson 1529 with a 1.5KW block heater. Here in northern Minnesota, when temps are around 0F, I plug it in for an hour. When below zero, I usually warm it for 2 hours. It starts like it was 60F outside. That being said, after starting, I let it run on fast idle for about 15 minutes before slowly working the FEL to start warming up the hydraulic fluid as it is hydrostatic drive and the heater doesn't do much to warm the 9 gallons of fluid. The coolant temp gauge comes up to the normal mark in just a couple of minutes after starting. Doubt I would see any improvement if using a radiator hose heater.