Starting the workshop-need advice on a nailgun
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I came across this a little late, but I'll add my 2 cents anyway. I own Craftsman, Senco, Porter Cable, Stanley, Bosch, and some HF brands. Some are new, some are 20 years old. They have all served me well. The Sears brands tend to double nail just like on "This Old House" I really like Senco because I don't have to oil them, something I'm not faithful about!!! Jams are hard to clear on the HF models. So you get what you pay for.
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I have a paslode framing nailer and a craftsman & hitachi coil roof nailer.
all are ok. craftsman was bought just cuz needed another roofing nailer on a job & was cheap. It works fine
Paslode is a good framing nailer & I have no complaints.
all are ok. craftsman was bought just cuz needed another roofing nailer on a job & was cheap. It works fine
Paslode is a good framing nailer & I have no complaints.
JeffRey30747
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I'll second the Stanley Bostich recommendation. I have used Senco, Duo-Fast, Paslode, Harbor Freight and Stanley Bostitch. When it came time for me to put my $ in a framing nailer, I chose the Stanley Bostitch N88WW. It was lightweight and has 1000 in lbs of driving force, definitely a big improvement over the old S-B N16 that is no longer parts supported. My only criticism of any of the brands that I have used is to stay away from any of the Paslodes that use paper collated nails unless you keep everything clean and dry.
Jeff
Jeff
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I bought a <font color="red"> USED </font> Hitachi full head framing nailer about 14 years ago and probably have consumed easily 100 cases of 3 1/4" nails since then.
Other than oil and occasional washdown with WD40 I have done nothing to it.
Need I say more?
PC is great for finished nails.(PC250)
Senco is good but heavy.(nails costly)
Like my Makita roofing gun.
It has adjustable penetration. (others also)
Love my paslode 1/4 stapler.(c/w taped on allen keys)
Found Bostitch parts hard to get. also their nails are costlier.
Deffinately a quick access nose to clear jams is a MUST. They do happen at the worst times. (Up a 30' ladder? or on the roof when your proper allen keys are at home?)
I now tape allen keys to every gun that has no quick nose!
Most important is to be sure that your lumber yard stocks the nails!
New poly braided hoses are simply the best thing since sliced bread. Very light wt and the stay flexible even in cold. Try nailing shingles with 50' of rubber hose hanging down over the eaves!
Add a swivil head to the female end of the hose. Makes life much easier.
Get a belt hook to hang the nailer on you.
If you drop a coil of nails, you scrap it!
You can stuff many sticks of nails in your tool pouch but NONE coils!
A flat qt oil plastic bottle makes a great stick nail carrier with the neck cut off and a couple of slots to fit your belt.
OK there are more nails in a coil than in a stick, but you can carry more sticks than coils.
Bounce nailer is best for framing (and roofing) while single shot for finishing.
Anyway them's my observations.
Compressors:
Oiless lighter and cleaner but service life about 500 hours.
I sell mine off used at 300 hrs and make someone happy and replace for minimal upgrade cost.
Oiless rebuild parts cost almost as much as a new compressor.
Oil type will do 2000 hrs and usually cost more.
But rebuild parts are cheap. (set of rings)
Other than oil and occasional washdown with WD40 I have done nothing to it.
Need I say more?
PC is great for finished nails.(PC250)
Senco is good but heavy.(nails costly)
Like my Makita roofing gun.
It has adjustable penetration. (others also)
Love my paslode 1/4 stapler.(c/w taped on allen keys)
Found Bostitch parts hard to get. also their nails are costlier.
Deffinately a quick access nose to clear jams is a MUST. They do happen at the worst times. (Up a 30' ladder? or on the roof when your proper allen keys are at home?)
I now tape allen keys to every gun that has no quick nose!
Most important is to be sure that your lumber yard stocks the nails!
New poly braided hoses are simply the best thing since sliced bread. Very light wt and the stay flexible even in cold. Try nailing shingles with 50' of rubber hose hanging down over the eaves!
Add a swivil head to the female end of the hose. Makes life much easier.
Get a belt hook to hang the nailer on you.
If you drop a coil of nails, you scrap it!
You can stuff many sticks of nails in your tool pouch but NONE coils!
A flat qt oil plastic bottle makes a great stick nail carrier with the neck cut off and a couple of slots to fit your belt.
OK there are more nails in a coil than in a stick, but you can carry more sticks than coils.
Bounce nailer is best for framing (and roofing) while single shot for finishing.
Anyway them's my observations.
Compressors:
Oiless lighter and cleaner but service life about 500 hours.
I sell mine off used at 300 hrs and make someone happy and replace for minimal upgrade cost.
Oiless rebuild parts cost almost as much as a new compressor.
Oil type will do 2000 hrs and usually cost more.
But rebuild parts are cheap. (set of rings)
Bird
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Oiless lighter and cleaner but service life about 500 hours.
I sell mine off used at 300 hrs and make someone happy and replace for minimal upgrade cost.
Oiless rebuild parts cost almost as much as a new compressor.
Oil type will do 2000 hrs and usually cost more.
But rebuild parts are cheap. (set of rings)
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Bob, the compressor dealer I used said the the service life of the oil type was more like 10 times that of the oilless than 4 times. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif And in my experience with DeVilbiss manufactured compressors, the oilless parts were cheaper and it was quicker, cleaner, and easier to rebuild them. Of course it depends on how much rebuilding you have to do. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Oiless lighter and cleaner but service life about 500 hours.
I sell mine off used at 300 hrs and make someone happy and replace for minimal upgrade cost.
Oiless rebuild parts cost almost as much as a new compressor.
Oil type will do 2000 hrs and usually cost more.
But rebuild parts are cheap. (set of rings)
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Bob, the compressor dealer I used said the the service life of the oil type was more like 10 times that of the oilless than 4 times. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif And in my experience with DeVilbiss manufactured compressors, the oilless parts were cheaper and it was quicker, cleaner, and easier to rebuild them. Of course it depends on how much rebuilding you have to do. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
dbelisle
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I bought a Duofast 350 30 years ago , it will shoot 6 to 16P nails and it is still going strong. All nailguns do a good job when you have the nails and there working.
The reason I went with the Duofast is the lumber yard near me uses Duofast in there panel shop. So they have plenty of nails in stock when I need them and they also have a service truck that goes to jobsites to repair air nailers.
I would look at the availability of nails and how good the service for the unit you want is in your area. That's how I would deside what nailer to buy.
If I have to waite and for a order of nails or weeks for my nailer to be repaired I don't want the unit.
Dave in NH
The reason I went with the Duofast is the lumber yard near me uses Duofast in there panel shop. So they have plenty of nails in stock when I need them and they also have a service truck that goes to jobsites to repair air nailers.
I would look at the availability of nails and how good the service for the unit you want is in your area. That's how I would deside what nailer to buy.
If I have to waite and for a order of nails or weeks for my nailer to be repaired I don't want the unit.
Dave in NH
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This could end up like a ford vs chevy debate /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Paslode F350S Powermaster Plus... Enough said. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Serously though.. My roofing guns were Hitachi and my framing guns were Paslode. We always had several brands on the job sites but the Paslodes were the first ones grabbed when framing. They have the industry best power to weight ratio, easy to handle, fast cycle time and rarely jambed. Comes with sequential and bounce trigger.
I have literaly put tens of thousands of rounds through my Paslodes and several having taking some unexpected long trips to the ground without major damage.
The more nails in the gun the better. Nothing blows more than having to constantly reload, especially when stick building a 12 pitch roof on a 2 story house while trying to keep your balance.
Paslode F350S
Paslode F350S Powermaster Plus... Enough said. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Serously though.. My roofing guns were Hitachi and my framing guns were Paslode. We always had several brands on the job sites but the Paslodes were the first ones grabbed when framing. They have the industry best power to weight ratio, easy to handle, fast cycle time and rarely jambed. Comes with sequential and bounce trigger.
I have literaly put tens of thousands of rounds through my Paslodes and several having taking some unexpected long trips to the ground without major damage.
The more nails in the gun the better. Nothing blows more than having to constantly reload, especially when stick building a 12 pitch roof on a 2 story house while trying to keep your balance.
Paslode F350S
gary_brady
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I have a Stanley Bostitich round head nailer. It has worked well for about six large boxes of nails. The trigger valve failed and the gun started blowing air. I live in Houston, Texas and thought I would not have a problem getting repair parts. There are several repair shops in my area. They fix or supply parts for every make but Stanley Bostitch. In a city of millions you can not get parts for a gun that is sold in most lumber yards. If you can not buy parts or have it repaired in your area I would pass on Stanley. I bought a DuoFast to replace the Stanley. If I can get parts to repair it I will sell it. If I catch that Stanley Bostitch sales guy I will give him some grief over the parts situation.
