Starting your Diesel on a cold day tip

[RoyJackson]

Question here: Does anybody know of a CUT diesel that has ether injection for a cold starting aid? I used to drive medium duty diesel straight trucks and most were fitted with ether injection.

I haven't seen one of those in years. I'd guess most diesel equipment now have intake heaters (like the Deere CUTs) or glow plugs.

 

[PILOON]

Had a Deere 510* that had that dash either injection system. Never used it as I could not find the bottles/tins locally.
I used to simply do a quick squirt into the air cleaner and she started promptly.

* huge 3 cylinder monster made in Germany, 2 wheel drive without power steering that was essentially useless. LOL. Even with chains it hated snow so I traded for a Mitsubishi 4 x 4 that really out performed at 1/3 the HP and 25% of the weight. Also much more maneuverable in tight quarters.

 

[vtsnowedin]

Until you experience the minus 20...and the have been a lot of minus double digit temperatures the last two winters...you really don't know what you're missing.

I use a block heater...much easier on the engine. I also treat my fuel...just in case (Power Service white bottle). It's also advisable, IMHO, to not keep too much fuel around (maybe 40-50 gallons) so you ensure you get the winter blend when the time comes.

That's no guarantee. Last winter in Late December the local filling station (Chelsea) had their above ground 1000 gal off road tank jell up so they couldn't pump it into your jug. Then just last week my tractor came back from the dealers shop after the fuel tank was removed and replaced to get at what was under it with fuel in it that jelled right up the next morning. It was so bad I had to take the fuel line off where it goes into the fuel filter and blow it back to the tank. Five gallons of Kerosene and half a bottle of red 911 later I'm back in business.

 

[Turbys_1700]

The old John Deere 2640 had that option available...no glow plugs on that unit

Same option with our AC 8050...

 

[Soggy Bottom Outdoors]

Didn't some of the older Ford tractors X000 and X600 models have a cold starting system that squirted, sprayed, dripped, injected whichever fuel into the intake? It seems like I had a neighbor with on of those.

 

[RoyJackson]

That's no guarantee. Last winter in Late December the local filling station (Chelsea) had their above ground 1000 gal off road tank jell up so they couldn't pump it into your jug. Then just last week my tractor came back from the dealers shop after the fuel tank was removed and replaced to get at what was under it with fuel in it that jelled right up the next morning. It was so bad I had to take the fuel line off where it goes into the fuel filter and blow it back to the tank. Five gallons of Kerosene and half a bottle of red 911 later I'm back in business.

That's why I always add Power Service to every 5 gallons (I use 5 gallon cans).
I'm not sure how much anti-jelling capability Power Service (white bottle) has...worked fine for the 4400 kept inside the garage. But the 4520 will be camping outside for the foreseeable future. I may have to use something else.

 

[RoyJackson]

Didn't some of the older Ford tractors X000 and X600 models have a cold starting system that squirted, sprayed, dripped, injected whichever fuel into the intake? It seems like I had a neighbor with on of those.

I'm not sure of the model, but the Ford backhoe I ran in 1968 had the ether injection system on the dash.

I recall working in Columbia City (just west of Baltimore MD)...that's where I operated the backhoe, BTW. A lot of bulldozers had small fires under the engines as a starting aid. Can't say I ever saw one catch fire.

 

[vtsnowedin]

I'm not sure of the model, but the Ford backhoe I ran in 1968 had the ether injection system on the dash.

I recall working in Columbia City (just west of Baltimore MD)...that's where I operated the backhoe, BTW. A lot of bulldozers had small fires under the engines as a starting aid. Can't say I ever saw one catch fire.

My neighbors large International Harvesters from the 70'S (I think) had them . He'd take the cans off in the summer so the boys wouldn't push the wrong button while it was hot.

 

[buickanddeere]

Had a Deere 510* that had that dash either injection system. Never used it as I could not find the bottles/tins locally.
I used to simply do a quick squirt into the air cleaner and she started promptly.

* huge 3 cylinder monster made in Germany, 2 wheel drive without power steering that was essentially useless. LOL. Even with chains it hated snow so I traded for a Mitsubishi 4 x 4 that really out performed at 1/3 the HP and 25% of the weight. Also much more maneuverable in tight quarters.

Are there any mid 1960's tractors that can compete with a new 4x4 hydrostatic CUT ?

 

[RoyJackson]

Are there any mid 1960's tractors that can compete with a new 4x4 hydrostatic CUT ?

Depends on the task...in a drawbar to drawbar towing competition, I'd guess the 1960's tractor would walk away with most any CUT manufactured today