Startup fumes

[Cliff_Johns]

I'm thinking about a way to vent the fumes that are generated by the tractor when I first start it up in the garage. Right now it fills the garage with noxious dirty fumes, and there I am sitting in it waiting for the tractor to warm up for a minute or two.

It crossed my mind that maybe I should just run a hose of some sort out the door and let that initial burst of smoke go outside. Aren't there special hoses made for car exausts so people can run them for a short times in a garage?

Cliff

 

[chim]

That's something I have thought about too. Thought about = yes, took action = no.

There's a place we deal with near here (RW Industries) that carries all kinds of tubing and hose materials. They have a couple people who can come up with the right materials for almost any application. There's probably a similar supplier in any decent sized town. They can get anything from trash pump discharge hose to laser surgery exhaust tubing.

Two things I thought about beyond your more sensible solution were to have an exhaust fan in the ceiling of the garage that would be controlled via a timer whenever a door opened. The construction of my house would make this simple. This would be fairly simple to tie in to the garage door controls.

The other would be a dedicated blower for the tractor only. I have an extra blower from a gas furnace exhaust. The inlet / outlet diameter is roughly 2". It moves a lot of air, so the plan would be to make up a hose with an attachment on the tractor end that would be made to fit in a way that it could suck air around the connection to the tractor exhaust pipe. The concentration of exhaust and heat would be low because of the larger percentage of fresh air mixed in. These blowers are made to handle at least some heat, and are fairly corrosion resistant.

This has been another "one of these days I'm gonna" thing that finds its way to the back burner. Let us know how you make out.....................chim

 

[RoyJackson]

I don't wait a minute or two....as soon as the oil light goes out, I'm backing out of the garage. There's little load on the tractor and I'm only at a moderate RPM (1200-1500) so I see no harm being done, even in cold weather. Since the garage is in the basement, the tractor isn't setting out in below freezing temperatures.

If I let it idle inside, the fume permeate the upstairs area. If my garage was a seperate building, I'd probably let it idle inside with the garage door open....not the case however.

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

I had this concern also awhile ago. I bought a section of the hose you see them use at a mechanic's garage. Works great! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[_RaT_]

I agree with Roy, get the stinkin thing out of the garage immediately. The slight load it places on the engine is going to be insignificant. If thats still a concern, opt for synthetic oil. Many busineses use diesel backup generators that come to full load immediately with nothing more then heated coolant. Yours won't be heated, but it won't be any where near full load or RPM.

 

[JDgreen227]

I'll agree with Roy, although I store my JD in a barn about 10 seconds after startup I use the hydro pedal to move it outdoors at idle, it places very little load on the engine.

In the winter time I use a pair of large box fans to push the fumes towards the door because I don't want to move the tractor while it's really cold. I'm going to install a block heater this fall to eliminate the fan use.

 

[DAP]

Sure, getting it out quickly will only keep the fumes from building up.

That initual black puff is what the poster is referring to.

Seems like a PITA hose is about the only recourse.

 

[beenthere]

Just my 2 cents;
I move my Deere 4300 out as soon as it comes up to throttle engine speed, and sometimes as it is doing it. I don't set much with it idleing, just to 'warm up'. I don't start working it hard, such as getting a load in the bucket type work, but I head off to do what I plan to do.
No 'black smoke' ever, and only some initial white smoke if I previously put it away 'cold' (before it was warmed up good on the previous job). Then the white smoke clears after 10-15 seconds.
I don't care for the lingering diesel smell in the garage when I drop off a load of firewood on the carry-all, but by idling down the engine when backing in, releasing quickly because of the I-match, I get the least amount of smell.
I wouldn't want to be bothering with a hose, unless I was for some reason working on the tractor and needed it running inside the garage or shed.
But, I am sure those hoses are available to purchase.

 

[_RaT_]

Strangely, my Kubota runs very clean and this is not much much of an issue. Many diesels I've had have a slight smell of barbeque lighter fluid in the exhaust. My Kubota does not, it smells different then any other diesel I've had. It does burn clean as the brochure mentions. My International 454D on the other hand burns so dirty that it's a great way to kill any living thing in the shop. You don't see any smoke, but man, it is bad.

 

[fishman]

Let's see, slight possibility of increased wear on tractor vs. breathing carcinogenic smoke. I generally chose the former, since I'm not sure I'll put enough hours on my tractor to ever wear it out. If I do, I can always buy another. Right now, that's not an option with my lungs. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

So put me down on the side that starts their tractor, then backs out of the garage as soon as possible.

 

[Soundguy]

Um.. how about that aluminum dryer vent hose.. and a dryer flap vent... just have the hose suspended by a string or something and slip it over the exhaust after you park it... perhaps a ?rubber band to hold it on? and then just reach up and slip it off right before you back out?

Soundguy

 

[kevinj]

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I don't know how your tractor is set up but on the Kubota BX I just back it in and park near the door. The forward exhaust blows what little smoke it makes out the door.

 

[frank_f15]

for me i just start it up(garage doors open) and walk out for a few min. till it warms up.

 

[Junkman]

I back my tractor into the garage and as soon as the engine is running, I put it outside to warm up at idle. In the summer, I just move it to the front of the house while it is at an idle to finish warming. There isn't enough wear on the engine to be concerned with by doing this. Think of the abuse that your car engine withstands because you start it and start driving almost immediately. The car doesn't seem to suffer does it. An engine operation under load, is better than a engine that is running at 1200-1500 RPM under no load. When I allow the engine to come up to temperature during winter months, I always put the tractor into low gear with the brake on, to also warm the transmission oil. Everyone has their own way of warming up their tractor, and for the most part, there is no "right or wrong" way. Just don't start a cold engine and rev the heck out of it....... that is definitely WRONG!!!!!

 

[Cliff_Johns]

It's that initial cough into the corner of my garage that annoys me. Since my door stops 3 feet from the wall, the exaust ends up coughing into this corner even if I drive out as soon as it's running (I always back in). I guess when I get it into my new garage, I will park it on the other side so the throat clearing goes outside better, then drive right out as recomended by many of the posters.

Thanks, Cliff

 

[Junkman]

You can always release the brake and push it outside and then start it..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Zoomie]

Perhaps you could install the Lady Kenmore 2000... even add some extra worklights.. and of course... paint it orange! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[isucrazy]

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif. I heard a little fren/oops, FREEDOM fry oil smells real tasty. I been thinkin bout mixin a little CRISPY CREAM doughnut oil to my biodiesel to make warmups more enjoyable! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif But all in all I could see the kenmore super sucker 2000 with curb finders and a strob gettin er done! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[_RaT_]

Oooooooo, the LADY Kenmore 2000, sounds powerful, looks cute. Where do I buy. Can just anyone buy one of the Lady Kenmore 2000's?

 

[_RaT_]

Could you take a hose from the exhaust pipe and stick it right back into the intake and give the diesel a taste of it's own medicine? Maybe that would change things.