Status of Everything Attachments

[Grateful11]

I've been in this group for a long time and have been more of a lurker than a poster over the past 15 years. I want say this I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would pay 10-15% of the price of their tractor for a grapple when you can get a grapple for around $1000 and made right in Denton, NC that will get the job done. Some are saying China is causing this with EA. If you live anywhere near Denton, NC where CID attachments started you'd know the skid steer attachment market is flooded right now. Just a few weeks ago we went by WildKat attachments, I think their name has changed, on Hwy. 49 Denton, NC. I've never seen so many attachments stacked up on their lot. There must've been several hundred grapples alone. We've been running a 60" Loflin Compact Tractor Vertical Root Grapple now for 5 years now and it's used a lot as this is a full time farm with pastures, wooded areas and cropland. It's never failed us.

We were within about a mile of EA's facility about 2 weeks ago now I kinda wish we had gone by there just to see if there was any activity. I'm not going to speculate about what's going on with them as I hope for the employees sake this just a bump in the road. About 40 years ago I worked in a Machine/Job Shop that nearly closed it's doors, one employee went during this lunch break to cash his paycheck and they wouldn't cash it due to NSF boy it didn't take long for that to spread through the shop. Owner had to call a meeting with everyone and explain. They hired a team of consultants, restructured and came out of it and are doing great today. I left there about 35 years ago.

Just in Denton, NC alone you have CID Attachments, WildKat Attachments, Loflin Fabrication, Unlimited Fabrication and Rut Manufacturing. I think there's more but that's all I could think of at the time and Denton is a tiny town. There's numerous others within 50 miles of Denton. Like I said I hope this is just a glitch for EA.

 

[lilranch2001]

Weird, never heard of any of those companies

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Wednesday I bought a new car and drove to a dealer 2 hours away. The reason was it was on their lot, the color (blue) we wanted and we tried it & both liked it. It had 12 miles on it leaving the dealership after paying cash and got a good deal.
A much closer dealership had too many red flags: it's listed for sale on their website but "in transit"...ok I thought, so a day to get there. No...2 weeks they said (first red flag), then $500 NON REFUNDABLE deposit! (second red flag). I tried calling the sales manager...never could & he never returned my calls (3rd flag).
Two local dealerships both 9 miles away one had a car that was ok...except 450 miles on it (2024 brand new???) and scratches where it looked like someone tried removing the radio! Other dealership the price was MSRP+ tax+$700 processing fee, we walked out. They said that's the price take it or leave it, so we left it!
It pays to shop but it certainly is nice laying hands on what you want then striking a fair deal and taking it home!
I retired 10 years ago running a business and told customers trust is #1. If both parties are trustworthy then everything goes smoothly.
Any red flag...walk away.

 

[lilranch2001]

I like my blue F150

 

[tacticalturnip]

I like my blue F150

My F350 is blue as well.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Ones we drive mostly blue, black,black, blue, black .

 

[dstig1]

I bought 3 attachments (one was for a friend) from them a number of years ago when it was place the order and they shipped pretty much right away. No problem paying 100% at order time on that. They have all been great. Sad to hear they are in trouble or rumored to be.

There was some famous book I forget where one character asks another "How did you go bankrupt?" and his reply was "Gradually and then suddenly". I get what that means, and seems to often be the case.

 

[Rich_Z]

Well, I sure would like to hear from the principal parties about what is going on, but I understand somewhat. Most attorneys will tell their clients when a lawsuit is involved to just shut your trap about saying anything publicly about it, because the other camp will find a way to use anything you say against you in court.

But push come to shove, after 4 and a half months, I just don't want to wait any longer for my grapple while the courts snail crawl to a resolution and there is doubt in the air about me getting it at all.

The last correspondence I had gotten from EA didn't make any mention of an upcoming legal issue that would impact the schedule of my impending shipping date:

On 1/16/2024 1:22 PM, nate@everythingattachments.com wrote:
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> We are currently working on getting parts together for a batch of 60” grapples. We have been a little behind on shipping times, but are working hard to get back on track.
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> Thanks,
> Nate

So yeah, maybe they can't use the new building because of a contractor pissing duel, but why isn't the old building still operational?

 

[two_bit_score]

Well, I sure would like to hear from the principal parties about what is going on, but I understand somewhat. Most attorneys will tell their clients when a lawsuit is involved to just shut your trap about saying anything publicly about it, because the other camp will find a way to use anything you say against you in court.

But push come to shove, after 4 and a half months, I just don't want to wait any longer for my grapple while the courts snail crawl to a resolution and there is doubt in the air about me getting it at all.

The last correspondence I had gotten from EA didn't make any mention of an upcoming legal issue that would impact the schedule of my impending shipping date:


So yeah, maybe they can't use the new building because of a contractor pissing duel, but why isn't the old building still operational?

It will work out for you! One way or the other.

 

[1 Old Man]

It will work out for you! One way or the other.

...of maybe 5 different ways? 1. get the grapple. 2. don't get the grapple. 3.get the $ refunded. 4. lose the $. 5. don't get the grapple AND lose the $. ??????

I don't know if this has been answered or not; why don't they continue to use the old factory until the new one gets torn down, fixed or brought up to code? The production may be slowed BUT they would still be in
business and not ruining their reputation and consumer confidence?

 

[two_bit_score]

...of maybe 5 different ways? 1. get the grapple. 2. don't get the grapple. 3.get the $ refunded. 4. lose the $. 5. don't get the grapple AND lose the $. ??????

I don't know if this has been answered or not; why don't they continue to use the old factory until the new one gets torn down, fixed or brought up to code? The production may be slowed BUT they would still be in
business and not ruining their reputation and consumer confidence?

Best answer I could give him. Fretting and fussing about it on TBN is not going to change anything.

 

[Rich_Z]

Best answer I could give him. Fretting and fussing about it on TBN is not going to change anything.

Sorry! I thought this was a discussion forum and the topic of this thread is "Everything Attachments".

 

[Yander]

Sorry! I thought this was a discussion forum and the topic of this thread is "Everything Attachments".

It is, but as you are learning, the price you pay for putting your business on TBN is often the opinion's of all kinds of demented old buzzards and some also really wise folks. Always up to the OP to sort out what is useful and what is just Blah Blah Blah and not get too butt hurt about the dumb comments.

...That said, here's another opinion for all of you who have equipment ordered and not received. If you haven't already called your card company and began a refund process, what are you waiting for?

I had ordered a lift in 2022 and long story short, I tried to cancel from one company due to lengthy lead times after I ordered. The time they said when I pushed the pay now button was acceptable but after a week they come back and say it was a couple months out. Not acceptable for me at the time so I tried to cancel and thought I did and ordered same exact lift from the actual manufacturer of the lift. Then, the first lift said It was shipped (The one that was supposed to have been canceled). WTH!

So I then had to cancel the second lift before it also shipped. Well, that was a bit of a panic moment thinking I had two $3k lifts on their way to my house that weigh about #1,000. Not something you just carry into the UPS store to return.

I called my card company and began processing a cancelation of payment from them. Explained the situation and they started a return process. It sounds like this is your only option if no one from EA is picking up the phone.

Well, there is one other option, but you won't like the outcome I'm afraid.

Edit: Also, please do share what your CC company says when you call them, we are curious how they handle it.

 

[D&D]

Weird, never heard of any of those companies

Quite a few seem to do little real research before making a decision and spending their money.

 

[Yander]

Quite a few seem to do little real research before making a decision and spending their money.

... and get away with it because it is such a prices driven consumer economy. Which makes it even more disappointing regarding EA, they seemed to focus on quality and improving product not as much on price point.

For guys who make a living with their equipment, quality is paramount to price.

 

[D&D]

... and get away with it because it is such a prices driven consumer economy. Which makes it even more disappointing regarding EA, they seemed to focus on quality and improving product not as much on price point.

For guys who make a living with their equipment, quality is paramount to price.

Homestead builds one very similar to EA, hardox 450 etc. Made in US + offers a veteran discount and ”free” shipping It doesn’t have the EA/ TBN hype but it’s a nice grapple unit. We do use our equipment everyday the weather permits.

60" Root Grapple

312 lbs
61 3/8"
39 1/2"
7 Bottom & 6 Top
9 7/8" Bottom &
10 1/4" Top
5/16" Hardox® 450
2" x 6" &
1 1/8" Rod
5 Standard Colors
12-Month Limited
Up to 55hp
$ 2,690
Shipped

 

[aesanders]

This appears to be where all the implement money went too:

Glass-and-Steel Lakehouse in North Carolina Lists for Nearly $5.5 Million

 

[Yander]

Homestead builds one very similar to EA, hardox 450 etc. Made in US + offers a veteran discount and ”free” shipping It doesn’t have the EA/ TBN hype but it’s a nice grapple unit. We do use our equipment everyday the weather permits.

60" Root Grapple

312 lbs
61 3/8"
39 1/2"
7 Bottom & 6 Top
9 7/8" Bottom &
10 1/4" Top
5/16" Hardox® 450
2" x 6" &
1 1/8" Rod
5 Standard Colors
12-Month Limited
Up to 55hp
$ 2,690
Shipped

Would like to have a Grapple but a lot of money for no more than I think I would use it. If I had a consistent use for it, I would have one. Looks like Homestead makes a lighter duty for smaller tractors too.

 

[workinonit]

That much money on an ugly house. Well, that sure puts another light on the situation. Makes you feel bad for ole Ted doesn't it. I hope ole Ted paid cash for that house.
Everyone is blaming this on the fact that implements are being built in China but this is not China's fault.
About the CCs. If you go to the CC company they will refund your money and sue ole Ted for theirs.

 

[workinonit]

They run anywhere from about $850- $1,000 for the ones with the good replaceable blades that can be re-sharpened.

I'm home today. I'll check that flow rate and let you know.