Steering broke YM186D

   / Steering broke YM186D #11  
can't help ya on that as I don't have a parts manual.. but you found what I expected.. shelled out thrust bearings.. that's the #1 failure I see on mnaual boxes.. that and lack of lube and bad seals.

I usually pump gearboxes full of 0# or 00# grease after I rebuild them..

soundguy
 
   / Steering broke YM186D #12  
Here is a couple of scans out of my 226 manual. Might be similiar to yours. May not help. Interesting, the 226 manual specs out Multi-purpose grease.
 

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   / Steering broke YM186D #14  
on a ford that would have had 2 ears, and an adjuster stud with a wide head that was under then ears to push / pull the sector... quite similar design...

soundguy
 
   / Steering broke YM186D #15  
Failure mode: just what Soundguy said. (He is one of the original gurus here, co-founder of this TBN Yanmar Forum in fact, for those of you haven't yet met him).

There was bad rust all down the steering shaft. Then nothing left of the upper shaft bearing where the steering shaft enters the box, just a fragment of its ball cage. This explains how the steering wheel became higher.

The bearing at the bottom of the steering shaft had a few balls left in its cage. When I bought the tractor I noticed the steering wheel dragged on the top of the steering column sleeve, and added a washer under the steering wheel. So the lower bearing must have been bad for a while to let the steering wheel settle down like that.

Also, the end of the Pitman shaft that engages the adjuster doesn't look like I expected. I thought it should have a groove that let the adjuster pull against it. Is that correct? It's end had one tab standing without such a groove, and apparently broken at its outer end, and the other tab apparently snapped off. What should the adjustment end of the Pitman arm look like? Does the adjuster only push against it?

I believe it only pushes as I believe Aarons video says the tabs are for holding the shaft as you adjust. Believe he said as long as you can make your adjustment it would be ok. All the steering boxes I have ever messed with do the tightening as you screw the adjustment screw in so that makes sense.
 
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#16  
I think there should be ears and they are snapped off - and in fact have been gone for a while. I tried adjusting the stud when I bought the tractor in 2009 and nothing I did reduced the slack in the steering wheel.
 
   / Steering broke YM186D #17  
if the ears are there it WILL pull.. however as for adjusting OUT backlash.. then push is the most important.

easy to fix in any case.. just a single welding rod and some mild steel and grinder work...

BTDT

soundguy
 
   / Steering broke YM186D #18  
make sure the bore the stud rides in is not stripped. IE.. the sector cover. if it is stripped.. you can't put pressure on the sector gear to reduce play / backlash clearance.


soundguy
 
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Here is a couple of scans out of my 226 manual
Winston, thanks! That shift gate/sleeve assembly, D in the second diagram, is also a single welded piece on mine. The lower end of the sleeve is clamped to the firewall. It looks like I need to loosen that clamp (G) and slide D up out of the dashboard. I don't have a diagram like yours showing the column-shift linkage in my 1980 parts manual or my later service manual.

SG, it seems like it would take a milling machine to cut that groove after adding material. That's over my head! At least the threads in the sector cover are good.

I think I am headed for a rebuilt exchange unit considering that I also need the Pitman shaft bushing and seal, and the bearing surface at the bottom of the steering shaft shows some galling. I haven't looked at the recirculating balls yet but I expect there is slack there too. I suspect there have been shattered ball bearings floating around in this steering box for years. Does anyone know if these steering boxes share components with Nissan etc? The ball bearings are obviously generic and if I could find an inexpensive Pitman shaft (specced for Datsun etc), I might take that approach.
 
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   / Steering broke YM186D #20  
Winston, thanks! That shift gate/sleeve assembly, D in the second diagram, is also a single welded piece on mine. The lower end of the sleeve is clamped to the firewall. It looks like I need to loosen that clamp (G) and slide D up out of the dashboard. I don't have a diagram like yours showing the column-shift linkage in my 1980 parts manual or my later service manual.

SG, it seems like it would take a milling machine to cut that groove after adding material. That's over my head! At least the threads in the sector cover are good.

I see that Hoye sells only a rebuilt box exchange, not components. And I've seen that the Pitman shaft for other applications is expensive. I think I am headed for a rebuilt exchange unit considering that I also need the Pitman shaft bushing and seal, and the bearing surface at the bottom of the steering shaft shows some galling. I haven't looked at the recirculating balls yet but I expect there is slack there too. I suspect there have been shattered ball bearings floating around in this steering box for years. Does anyone know if these steering boxes share components with Nissan etc? The ball bearings are obviously generic and if I could find an inexpensive Pitman shaft (specced for Datsun etc), I might take that approach.

Here's a picture of the sector shaft available from Hoye
 

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