Steers like a BARGE!

Soundguy · May 24, 2009

greg_g said:
Chris. I'm pretty sure your intentions are good. But the fact that you even have to ask that question, is proof enough that you've never even seen one of these TS-series.

I own one, Chip services them. Is it that difficult for you to just watch for a change?

//greg//

Guess the squadron flew right over.

My question wasn't of a technical nature to eliciting mechanical advice on the process to break the lines down... whether easy or extremely difficult in a chinese free-labor assembly line kind of way..

it was more rhetorical as in.. 'dang it man.. how hard is it to pull the lines and check it' sort of thing.

It's a sure fire -go/no go- way to tell if a cyl is bypassing internally while waiting for the answer to come over the magic 8-ball, ouija board, or internet.

As for not owning a chinese tractor.. that's a tired old comment. I've said it half a dozen times.... either make this sub an owners forum -only-, and -close- it to -all- non owners.. or don't gripe about non owners posting comments or opinions here..

soundguy

greg_g · May 24, 2009

lakespirit said:
Can they be repaired or do I need to buy one? What parts and cost, or how much is the pump?

Since Chip may be taking advantage of the holiday weekend, I'll take the liberty of responding. Some pump issues are repairable, but I'd remove/clean/inspect before assuming anything. The PR (pressure relief) valve may simply be obstructed, and a good cleaning might fix it. The PR valve is (should be) adjustable as well. Plus - once removed - the pump tang and drive assembly receiver are clearly visible. If the receiver is stripped, the pump itself might be perfectly good. But if the tang is rounded off, you may as well order a new pump. Worst case scenario, they destroyed each other; new drive gear receiver, new pump.

Let's hope you don't need a new pump. But if you do, be aware that there's more than one version in that capacity. Take care to get one with an internal PR valve.

//greg//

bluechip · May 24, 2009

Rather than just replace the pump, (we have it in stock, back to work Tuesday). it may be worth while to see if the pump is pumping, if the PR valve in teh pump is stuck or if the drive tank is damaged. the latter requires removal of the pump to inspect. Sometimes you can tap on the pump body with something and get teh PR valve to reseat. otherwise dissassembly and cleaning is the plan.

Soundguy · May 25, 2009

Just trying to catch up and stay on the same page on the lingo here.. are we talking about a priority valve ?

soundguy

greg_g · May 25, 2009

Soundguy said:
Just trying to catch up and stay on the same page on the lingo here.. are we talking about a priority valve ?

soundguy

No. They're only used to split off sub-circuits, like for steering on the one-pump Jinmas. This is a two pump TaiShan. I thought I was pretty clear in identifying it as a Pressure Relief valve.

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Soundguy · May 25, 2009

greg_g said:
No. They're only used to split off sub-circuits, like for steering on the one-pump Jinmas. This is a two pump TaiShan. I thought I was pretty clear in identifying it as a Pressure Relief valve.

//greg//

Oh ok.. I was actually responding to bluechips message under yours, and didn't see your (pressure relief) in quotations.

The reason I asked, is since we -were- talking about power steering, since a priority valve is used in some systems for ps pressure off a multi-used pump.

soundguy

greg_g · May 25, 2009

Soundguy said:
Oh ok.. I was actually responding to bluechips message under yours, and didn't see your (pressure relief) in quotations.

The reason I asked, is since we -were- talking about power steering, since a priority valve is used in some systems for ps pressure off a multi-used pump.

soundguy

Yes, Chris - we are talking about power steering. The relief valve under discussion is internal to hydraulic pump that powers the steering in LakeSpirit's TS254. I have the same pump in both my current tractors. The one on the 454 is problematic when overheated - also a pressure relief issue - the one on the 354 works just fine.

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Soundguy · May 25, 2009

greg_g said:
Yes, Chris - we are talking about power steering. The relief valve under discussion is internal to hydraulic pump that powers the steering in LakeSpirit's TS254. I have the same pump in both my current tractors. The one on the 454 is problematic when overheated - also a pressure relief issue - the one on the 354 works just fine.

//greg//

Why are you being a jerk about this?

I'm quite familiar with PS systems with integral to the pump relief valves.

I asked a simple question in ref to BC's reply about a "PR" valve.. I asked if he was refering to a priority valve.. I'll restate again that I had not read your post above it... I'm sorry I missed the post.. is that ok with you or do I need to do pennance or something?

I'm not sure why you are trying to be so contrary to me for asking a quiestion? ( That is the point of this forum is it not? right? )

I'm kinda glad i don't own one of these things now.. If I had to rely on this group for help it would be a problem since some of (you) guys must use cornstalks as chairs..... sheesh...

soundguy

greg_g · May 25, 2009

Soundguy said:
Why are you being a jerk about this?

Matter of perspective I guess. From mine, I'm trying to get across that this is obviously not a steering system with which you're familiar enough to be offering meaningful troubleshooting advice. That you are still trying - in spite of Chip's explanation why removing the hoses won't yield valid results - should speak for itself.

//greg//