Strain That Fuel

[Garybake]

Skyco,
My BX24 had been pretty much disassembled by dealer for cracked resin floor pan and fenders replacement under warranty 150 hours ago and a lot of bolts and parts were loose or rerouted less than desired anyways, so the teardown decision was a no brainer. I just tollerated the tank debris for as long as I did because of a car pedestrian accident in front of my house that I was in (pedestrian) cost me my left leg in 2008 and it took me this long to get back to pulling wrenches again (GM in there kindness, retired me a 31 year salary employee) when they were in financial trouble then in 2009 losing my medical/dental benefits (Whole other story). Anyways there is a spring roll pin that holds them on that I lost in process and ordered a replacement than trial and fit aftermarket that was improper size and later problems. 05411-00414 was part number for $.50 part. To remove the shaft there is an internal snap ring at case as well.
Gary

 

[LBrown59]

1*I solved the problem of contaminating fuel in cans and the associated transfer process.
2*I bought a 50 gallon tank and a manual rotary pump by Fil-Rite.
3* I added a 10 micron spin off filter at the pump discharge.
4*I put the tank on wheels so I can move it around easy.
5*The wheels also give clearance so I can lift with the FEL fork attachments and put it in and out of the pickup for filling.
6*Each Tank assembly set me back around $500 and a couple hours fooling around with it.
7*I don't buy enough fuel per year to warrant a larger tank .
8*I don't buy enough fuel per year to warrant going for untaxed fuel
Ron

1*I did it with this. It filters the fuel 2 or 3 times depending on how i operate it.
2*I bought 12 drums at $3.00 each and sold enough of them for 13 dollars a piece to pay for the drums i used, plus i made a profit on the deal. .
3*Here's my filter.
4*I take the tractor to the fuel instead of taking the fuel to the tractor simplifies things a lot that way .
5*Thanks to the self filling feature of this rig I have no need for wheels or forks as the drum is never moved or put it in or taken out of my pickup for filling.
6*I've got less than $400 in this outfit.
7*Me neither.
8*30 to 50 cents less per gallon is always warrented.

My
9*My Montana came with a filter screen in the opening of the fuel tank; .

9*That's great but what about water ?

10* A Mr. Funnel would prevent this.
I have one .

10* I have one too but don't use it any more since I built this .

11*So you fill it in the back up the pickup -
12*Is it DOT/EPA/"Fire Police" approved or do you just fill it and drive away?
13*Ever had any issues with it?

11* Certainly:No preblem!
12*Doesn't have to be so why not?
13*I haven't had any issues with mine.

14*I love my Mr Funnel..even removes water.
15*I get my fuel from the local Marathon station which gets new fuel every 4-5 days..they sell al lot..

14*I don't need mine much if any any more.
15*Probably not as much as A Marathon Bulk Plant that sells to fuel distributors service stations and truck stops.

16*DOT regs only apply to permanent installed tanks used as auxillary fuel for the vehicle and commercial uses.
17*My tank is sold as a transfer tank so does not require DOT tag.
18*I checked with the fire dept and got their blessing as long as I do not put in a garage or enclosed shed.
19* They reccommend not fueling around open flames such as a furnace (mine is electric), fireplace, or burn pile.
20* EPA, when they have time to find my little tank on a farm off the beaten path I will deal with it then i guess.
21*I think there is a minimum tank size mine is under if I remember the air pollution rules.
22*My brother-in- law has 120 acres and 10 times the equip I have, a 500 gallon Diesel, and 250 gallon gas tanks and has never been bothered.
23* As I have the filter I saved $200 buying a steel tank rather than an aluminum one.
24*I check for water often.

16*The word commerical is the key .
17*Also you are exempt because you are a private party not a commerical operator.
18*I can see not putting it in a garage but I think a shed or small storage building like this

is the perfect and safest place to put it.
19*Makes good sense to me.
20*Looks like you will not have that problem.
21*I think you are probably rite.
22*And a simple little ole homeowner only is not likely to be noticed or even considered.
23*My drums are fine.
24*the filter on my rig does that.

are common mix).
25*I have been using a large galvanized funnel.
26*I like the idea of built in water prevention. :thumbsup:

25*Get rid of the funnel .
Galvanized and diesel fuel don't mix.
Diesel will cause the galvanize to flake off the funnel and mix in with your fuel.
You don't want that in your engine.
26*So do I.

 

[North Country]

Quote:
Originally Posted by North Country
11*So you fill it in the back up the pickup -
12*Is it DOT/EPA/"Fire Police" approved or do you just fill it and drive away?
13*Ever had any issues with it?


11* Certainly:No preblem!
12*Doesn't have to be so why not?
13*I haven't had any issues with mine.

Fueling containers in the back of a pickup is generally regarded as a Bad Idea. Most people don't have them grounded properly. When set up with proper grounding, it's safe.

ABE301/AE174: Filling Gas Cans Safely

 

[LBrown59]

1*Fueling containers in the back of a pickup is generally regarded as a Bad Idea.
Most people don't have them grounded properly. When set up with proper grounding, it's safe.

2**ABE301/AE174: Filling Gas Cans Safely

1*kinda hard to get a 30 or 55 gallon drum loaded back on a pick up after setting it off to fill .
2*This is talking about gasoline not diesel .

 

[North Country]

Of course you can't reload it onto the truck when it's full - not unless you also drive the tractor to the fueling station.

Yes, it's talking about gas, but the same static principles also apply to diesel, kerosene, jet fuel, etc. The solution is easy - ground the tank & fuel. Take a grounding braid and hang it from the neck to the bottom of the tank. Make sure the metal filler nozzle (which is grounded) stays in contact with the grounding strap during the whole fill. Simple as that.

Grounding Braid

 

[Tractor Seabee]

With my 50 gl transfer tanks mounted on rubber tired wheels in the back of the pickup I only have to be sure and keep the nozzel touching the metal tank. Good idea on the braid though, I am going to get a spring clip and some braid, anchor it to the tank and clip it to the nozzel. Makes it more idiot proof. Good idea. I have been around diesel a lot and as long as it is ambient temp the fumes are not explosive, only when it is heated and compressed. That is why diesel is labeled combustible and gasoline is labeled flammable by all authorities such as NFPA and DOT. Try lighting diesel in a bucket with a match or a torch lighter. Don't try it with gasoline!!

I chose the 50 gl square tanks as they are easier to handle with my fork attachments and bolt onto wheels easier than 55 gl drums. The drums also have a higher center of gravity and easier to tip over. This way I bring the tractor to the fuel not the other way around.

Ron

 

[brin]

I love my Mr Funnel..even removes water. I use it 100% all the time. Amazing how much crud it collects-and I get my fuel from the local Marathon station which gets new fuel every 4-5 days..they sell al lot.. My fuel sediment bowl stays super clean.

I agree about Mr. Funnel...I got mine from Amazon.com...and I use it everytime I put fuel in the tractors..I swear by it. It takes just a minute to do and think of all the problems it prevents.:thumbsup:

 

[North Country]

With my 50 gl transfer tanks mounted on rubber tired wheels in the back of the pickup I only have to be sure and keep the nozzel touching the metal tank.

Ron

Metal tanks are self-grounding (the tank touches the nozzle; the nozzle is grounded). Plastic tanks are where the danger lies.