Stump Grinder

   / Stump Grinder
  • Thread Starter
#11  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( John,
If you don't mind me asking, how much does Power Trac charge for a cutter and motor like you have? )</font>

They charged me $471 plus shipping. A fully assembled stump cutter attachment was going for $800 at the time. I spent about another $120 on hoses and fittings and about $30 on steel as I used scrap pieces that I had laying around. All total, I built the assembly for less than what PT was charging for their complete assembly.


John
 
   / Stump Grinder #12  
Excellent! After seeing those chips fly, I understand why you have the cutter extended so far away from the seat. Just out of curiosity, can you reverse the hydraulic connection and blade so that the chips are thrown away from you? Seems if this were possible you could get closer to the stump for better visibility.
 
   / Stump Grinder #13  
<font color="blue"> can you reverse the hydraulic connection and blade so that the chips are thrown away from you? </font>

We've discussed this on the Power Trac forum a few times.

With it rotating over the top away from you, it throws the chips right at you, but also tries to climp up the stump, away from you.

If you reverse the blade and direction of rotation, the blade will try to walk down the stump towards you and down into the ground.

Some sort of screen would be desirable to prevent the chips from coming at you.
 
   / Stump Grinder #14  
Hi John,
That is awesome. I think some expanded steel for a screen could add some safety to that cutter. I was surprised to see Struck with a Wisconsin address and I cannot recall seeing their equipment out and about. It looks like a nice rig to have around the place.
 
   / Stump Grinder #15  
John,
Thanks for the information and sharing your new piece of equipment with us. I think that you will a lot of good use out of it.
 
   / Stump Grinder #16  
<font color="blue"> If you reverse the blade and direction of rotation, the blade will try to walk down the stump towards you and down into the ground. </font>

Do you think the dynamics of the stump grinder may differ from that seen with PTs? I would imagine the mass of the Magnatrac and the longer arm of the BH might change the behavior somwhat. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part. In any event, it is a neat modification. It is also interesting to me, after reading hundreds of posts in the PT section where PT owners are thinking of ways to use 3rd party attachments on their tractors that here is someone who has recognized the value of the PT attachments and made one work on their machine. You guys continue to amaze me.
 
   / Stump Grinder
  • Thread Starter
#17  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue"> If you reverse the blade and direction of rotation, the blade will try to walk down the stump towards you and down into the ground. </font>

Do you think the dynamics of the stump grinder may differ from that seen with PTs? I would imagine the mass of the Magnatrac and the longer arm of the BH might change the behavior somwhat. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part. In any event, it is a neat modification. It is also interesting to me, after reading hundreds of posts in the PT section where PT owners are thinking of ways to use 3rd party attachments on their tractors that here is someone who has recognized the value of the PT attachments and made one work on their machine. You guys continue to amaze me. )</font>

I thought about mounting the blade differently so that chips would not come back at the operator. My original thought was to mount it so blade would spin horizontally and chips would go out to the side. I figured that this config would put too much of a side load on the backhoe so I kept the blade rotation in the same plane as the backhoe normally digs. I didn't really consider making it rotate up. The blade hub is not drilled all the way through, so you can't (at least not easily) mount it on the shaft the other way around and making the motor spin the other way. The easiest way to make it spin the opposite way would be by mounting the whole thing upside down so that the motor is on the left side of the unit and spinning in the normal direction. This would require grinding out a couple of welds on my bracket as one end is made to be narrower than the other end (with spacers welded on inside). I wonder why Power Trac wouldn't have done the same thing to keep the chips from flying toward the operator?

I haven't ever used a PT stump grinder, but I would guess that the dynamics would be somewhat different because of the shorter distance between the cutter and the attachment to the main tractor (on the PT). Although I was initially concerned that putting the grinder way out there with the backhoe arm at full extension would cause it to really be unstable, but it wasn't all that bad. I'm going to have to experiment lots more to get the technique perfected, but what I found works really well and protects the operator the most is to open the bucket curl almost all the way (this brings the blade guard pretty much vertical). Then, I move the cutter into contact with the stump using the boom raise/lower and dipper in/out controls. Then, curling the cutter down into the stump really plunges the cutter in. This grinds a slot like using a circular saw. What was a little tough was to make a series of slots with the amount of wood left in between thin enough to knock/grind off with side to side motion. The cutter kept falling off back into an adjacent slot. I'm thinking about a modification to add a indexing pin or plate that would go into a slot already ground and hold the cutter steady so that it could plunge another slot in the wood right next to it. The index could be adjustable so that the wood left in between slots could be varied as needed so that it could be easily knocked off. Sort of like making a half of a lap joint in a 2 x 4 by making a bunch of cuts across with the circular saw and then knocking the thin remains off with a chisel.

What would really be cool is something like what is shown in the attached pic which was my original inspiration for the attachment... a spinning drum with lots of carbide teeth (or a stack of PT type disks). Now that's what I call destructive potential! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Any other ideas would be appreciated.

John M
 

Attachments

  • 275391-FRAME12.jpg
    275391-FRAME12.jpg
    31.8 KB · Views: 694
   / Stump Grinder
  • Thread Starter
#18  
Here's another pic of the excavator mounted mega grinder. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 

Attachments

  • 275393-FRAME10.jpg
    275393-FRAME10.jpg
    35.2 KB · Views: 1,125
   / Stump Grinder #20  
Can't you just change the oil lines ?? i mean, plumb the pressure hose to the side where the return line goes, and vice versa ??
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

1996 PETERBILT 357 35 TON WRECKER (A50505)
1996 PETERBILT 357...
1985 International X Con Semi (A50514)
1985 International...
2013 GMC Terrain SLE SUV (A50324)
2013 GMC Terrain...
2006 Ford F-150 Pickup Truck (A48081)
2006 Ford F-150...
30ft Pole S/A Towable Trailer (A49346)
30ft Pole S/A...
TAKEUCHI TL150 SKID STEER (A51242)
TAKEUCHI TL150...
 
Top