Sub compacts are under estimated

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I haven't seen concrete septic tanks used in a decade. Fiberglass or plastic now is about all that is used. Concrete is way too heavy for most homebuilders construction equipment to handle and no one wants to pay the rental for a crane to set them, plus the cost is way more than plastic or fiberglass. It is also much easier to seal your plumbing piping in the plastic tanks.

Here concrete tanks are still the norm...see then on the road about daily...the gantry trucks that deliver them set them in the hole...
 
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Here concrete tanks are still the norm...see then on the road about daily...the gantry trucks that deliver them set them in the hole...

All I see around here.
 
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Whaat??!!! The Bx2370 has a FEL lift capacity of 745 lbs. What happened to the other 445 lbs?

I quoted from the specs on the AU website, maybe I didn't read it properly.
Bit of work in progress most of which the 2370 has done, it is very dry here at the moment although it started raining Saturday and hopefully will break the cycle, we are normally green all year round.
The white stuff is 6 truck and trailer loads of gravel which I have used to flatten out the arena, the mounds are packing sand.
Drone is a DJI Mavic.
Arena on Vimeo
 
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How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time!

If a person has a 1/4 cubic yard capacity tractor, and every night after work they go out and make 20 scoops, in a months time they would have moved 300 cubic yards of material. That is 22 dump truck loads (wheeler sized)!!

Last year I got a grant to build a heavy haul road on my farm, and a contractor wanted $7000 to do the work. I had a bulldozer, but the transmission pump went on it so I ended up being forced to use my Kubota. Now we had the gravel, we just needed to move it, yet I needed to move 400 cubic yards for sub-base, and another 350 cubic yards for surfacing material. Using my Kubota, my log trailer with dumpbox, and my grocery-getter Ford Explorer; my wife and I calculated that we could get it done in 35 days if we could move 10 loads per day (surface gravel).

We did.

Amazing things can be done if people just stay with a job and keep at it. It only seems daunting at first.
 

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I am not in a rush and can shift and level one of those piles in about 3-4 hours, only problem is stopping because I get too hot, get wet or get a sore backside as the BX suspension doesn't have a lot of give, well, there is no suspension.
It could be time to visit ebay and find a gel seat pad, it has also been quite dry and hot for the past few weeks and the wind stirs up the sand and it finds its way into your eyes, nose, throat and crevices that you didn't think it would until you have a shower.
The Akubra (broad brimmed hat, straw in my case as felt is too hot) is a must when you have as little hair as me but the wind can take it off for you (and they are not cheap) and I don't like baseball caps.
Leveling is going to be the biggest issue, I am using the bucket to rough it out and will most likely use the grader, maybe if I just drive over it a lot it might help as the top sand will be quite thick and the girls may decide on a different material too like bark.
 
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You picked up a 1000 gallon septic with your BH ?? Concrete ?Don't want to say I don't believe you but I'd to see it to have my foot put in my mouth. :confused3:

It was a plastic tank, weighing about 400 lbs. Would'nt even be able to push a concrete tank LOL.
 
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Like the other posts said about big projects, it took me about a month to do the whole system. Working sometimes just 2 hours, sometimes 5-6, depending on soreness and or temp. Didn't mind either way, not in any rush.
 
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I surprise everyone with this little Massey...I take it a little far sometimes but she always comes through! IMG_4134.JPGIMG_2020.JPGIMG_3175.JPGIMG_3150.JPGIMG_2825.JPGIMG_2500.JPGIMG_4155.JPG
 
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I am not in a rush and can shift and level one of those piles in about 3-4 hours, only problem is stopping because I get too hot, get wet or get a sore backside as the BX suspension doesn't have a lot of give, well, there is no suspension.

Here is an old construction trick for worn out seats that cost way more then they are worth: go to a junk yard and buy a seat out of a car or something. I had an old Ford Focus kicking around so I used the seat out of that for my bulldozer. Trust me...tractors are smooth compared to the jarring a person takes on a bulldozer! :)

Even having to buy a junk yard seat is cheaper than buying a new bare-bones seat at Tractor Supply that hurts ye ole backside.

It is not for everyone I know, but there is something to be said for multiple positions and lumbar support! :)
 

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Here is an old construction trick for worn out seats that cost way more then they are worth: go to a junk yard and buy a seat out of a car or something. I had an old Ford Focus kicking around so I used the seat out of that for my bulldozer. Trust me...tractors are smooth compared to the jarring a person takes on a bulldozer! :)

Even having to buy a junk yard seat is cheaper than buying a new bare-bones seat at Tractor Supply that hurts ye ole backside.

It is not for everyone I know, but there is something to be said for multiple positions and lumbar support! :)

Tell the girl in the picture she cant hold up that dozer forever! Get her gloves and work boots and put her to work....:laughing:
 
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Tell the girl in the picture she cant hold up that dozer forever! Get her gloves and work boots and put her to work....:laughing:

Oh I get some work out of her, but she prefers the skidder over the bulldozer. Me...not so much; this old duffer is looking at his wife thinking dirty thoughts...and no...not regarding the mud the skidder is slogging through!

We have a farm, so it is kind of funny, come this time of year (lambing season) we might be headed out on a date or something, and she'll be in the barn with a pair of heels and a miniskirt on trying to keep a newborn lamb alive. It is kind of funny.
 

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Another thing I have noticed with a lot of tractors including sub compacts is the bucket, I watch a lot of videos on 'how to' for something I haven't done or need to do and almost all have a standard bucket, 4 in 1's don't seem very popular whereas here it is hard to find a tractor without one.
Nearly every chinese tractor comes with one and the name brands offer good deals for the upgrade to a 4 in 1 to make it hard to resist, I think mine was an extra $1k over the bare tractor at the time which is cheaper than buying the set up later (AU19K with no FEL AU$20k with 4 in 1).
Some older cockies say they would never have a 4 in 1 and I would never use it but I have found it to be probably the most used item of all, half an hour ago I lifted a 400kg bag of horse feed off the back of the ute and put it in the shed, well, I dragged it off first as I didn't have the height to opick it up but that was not a problem and all went smoothly, without those jaws I would have had to put hooks on the bucket and messed around which would have taken a lot longer.

NB. Sorry, Cockie, a local term for a farmer, not disrespectful, they are all known as that.
 
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I was getting free 20 yard loads of gravel from an excavation up the road... the operator was very skeptical when I said one load a day and keep them coming...

He was amazed how much work the BX23 could do... had no idea it was anything but a mower... even tried my backhoe controls and left saying he was impressed.
 
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With my CUT, Mitsubishi MT 180D (20 some HP) I average 1 hr per load for spreading topsoil or crushed stone.
With stone that's laying it out to about 3"-4" of coverage.
It is all about technique and experience. That's with FEL and a back blade.
Hey I just talk sweet to her. LOL.
AND, my CUT is a crash box tranny, lots of shifting. Just practice and patience.
 
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What's the definition of spread? I know my machine was quite a bit bigger but I could spread a pile in about 10 minutes. I could push 1/3 of the pile so I pushed it out and another couple of passes over that to level it up better. I've had no luck with free fill that's not busted up parking lot and such. I'd take a thousand loads if I could get it.
 
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We started of with road base which we got from contractors who were tearing up local roads and dumping it in the arena, the machine they used pulverised the mix and it was easy to spead providing you didn't wait too long, this was our initial base, we then used gravel to fill the depressions and eneveness of the land and now we are on the packing sand.
The sand I want fairly level then allow to settle for a few weeks before putting on the final sand.
I have a 4' grader blade, GRADER BLADE WHEEL KITS - 1311 - Hayes Products - Tractor Attachments and Implements I went narrow so I can use it in confined areas same as the landscape rake.
The grader has a following wheel I can engage which supposedly allows for a smooth finish, at the moment I am dumping and back dragging with the bucket so it's a bit lumpy but hopefully the grader will fix that but I don't want to get gravel dragged up into the sand.
I have never done this before so what I am doing seems logical to me, if anyone has a better idea please let me know as I am open to suggestion and the collective experience from everyone here.
The landscape rake can have two wheels fitted, http://https://hayesproducts.com.au/product/landscape-rake-wheel-kit-1121/ I don't have them but will buy them if you think this is a better idea than the grader blade, the idea is to raise the tines a preset distance from the ground abit like the grader wheel.
The grader seems to work OK but I notice it cuts a furrow when you turn which brings the gravel up into the sand.
I have only had the tractor for just over a year and this is a steep learning curve for me, I have the old Ferguson with a grader but I only ever used that for the driveway, it is now retired as I considered it to be a nasty vengeful piece of equipment.
 

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