Mowing Sucked it up

[tag01]

Slip Clutch, well after th 3rd shear bolt in 30 minutes I sucked it up and ordered the $435 JD slip clutch, I am really surprised Weasler did not offer an after market slip clutch for the 513.....but maybe that is what deere had in mind. Will be interesting to see what manufacturers name is on the green slip clutch.

 

[beenthere]

My 513 came with a slip clutch.

What are you cutting that causes the shear bolt failure?

 

[Combustix]

Will be interesting to see what manufacturers name is on the green slip clutch.

Hope you can read chinese:laughing:

 

[tag01]

mowing grass but when I hit a gopher mound there goes the shear pin

 

[tag01]

JD told me slip clutch was a $100 option (10 years ago) and something else I forgot to mention was 513 has no stump jumper pan like my MX 7 or other larger mowers.

 

[beenthere]

I have been sneaking by without the stumpjumper option on mine too. Wish I'd gotten it with the pan back in '96, but so far so good. Have most of my cutting is brush in the woods too.

 

[tag01]

The $430 clutch is here and I can now see why it is $250 higher than tractor supply. The end that connects to the gear box shaft is a collar sleeve similar to the shear bolt set up. The other end is a machined out yoke, which is a part of the main casting, that connects directly to the yoke in the u-joint of the telescoping shaft from the tractor. So now I have to tear the u-joint apart and they never go back together easy.

 

[tag01]

I took the u-joint apart this morning,,,,,guess what.....the cross is to small for the yoke on the slip cluth. Threw everthing in box and took to JD dealership. The only thing they can think of is the serial number of mower is the later version and maybe JD assembly line overlapped some parts. So they are going to order the other one and see if it has the smaller yoke. If that does not work then they tell me I will have to buy the complete pto shaft/slip clutch assembly. I did not ask for that price, I did not want to know. Maybe I should just put the stump jumper pan ($150) on and forget the slip clutch. Geeeeeeez where does it end.

 

[tag01]

JD called the other slip clutch is here and it also has the bigger yoke, so they tell me my 513 has an older style gear box pto setup that does offer a slip clutch that would have to be ordered piece by piece, not offered as an assembly, for $650........why me lord what have I ever done.........the $80 stump jumper pan is here maybe that will help the shear pin problem. Maybe I should trade the darn thing off or sell it.

 

[beenthere]

Your trade-up idea might be the most painless.

 

[Cidertom]

I replaced my drive on the 513 with the slip clutch about 3 yers ago. It was just over $200. This was an entire assembly, clutch, shaft, coupler. One note, this was not through the parts dept, but through sales since it was "whole goods". Unbolted shear connection on the gear box, bolted on the slip clutch and I was through.

Might be a case of no longer available as an assembly through sales. I will look to see if I can find the PO, for the number but it may take awhile.

I was buying shear bolts by the box. The best thing was not the cost of the bolts, but my time mowing. No more down time.

 

[tag01]

I would greatly appreciate that PO information, and the sn# of your 513.

 

[Cidertom]

I would greatly appreciate that PO information, and the sn# of your 513.

My how time flies, it was almost 5 years ago . Found the PO confirmed it was AG sales, not parts. Cost was $205.00 FOB Dealership.

mower sn w00523x020377 purchased may 2001

Driveline w/ slip clutch S260208B

Hope this helps.

Remember to slip the clutch each season and re-torque the bolts.

 

[tag01]

Thanks for the info, are you sure you have the sn number correct? your sn indicates you have a model 523 rotary cutter not a 513! My guess is you do have a 513 but JD beefed some parts up in the drive line and this their way of capturing that information on a 513. Before I call JD back can you verify what diameter is the shaft that comes out of the gear box that would hook up to the pto or slip clutch? Mine is 1.375 inches across (diameter). If yours is the same I may still be in luck.

 

[Cidertom]

Thanks for the info, are you sure you have the sn number correct?.... ? Mine is 1.375 inches across (diameter). If yours is the same I may still be in luck.

My bad, I was still on the first cup of coffee. The sn is ...513...
Shaft is 1.375 dia.

hope this helps. The same gear box was used for the 413/513 and 613 mower that year. A quick search has a couple of after market slip clutch drive shafts on ebay. don't know if they will work but they are about the same price I paid.

 

[tag01]

Well, time to go to plan B......driveline w/slip clutch as a whole good thru JD sales is no longer available. I can get the slip clutch thru parts, piece by piece for approx $650 NOT . I even had JD do a dealer search in US thinking maybe somebody ordered a SC then did not take it and dealer had it in stock, but I struck out there too! So gonna put the stump jumper pan on tomorrow morning and gonna buy weasler slip clutcth on way home tonight. Shaft size is correct but shear pin hole size on weasler is a 12mm compared to 10mm on JD.

 

[Cidertom]

Too bad about the lack of OEM. Now that you know the diameter I would hunt the local farm-garden stores (the farm side) I've seen these slip clutch shafts on the shelf.

 

[Cidertom]

On second thought: Did you look at the current models clutch offering? It wouldn't be the first time JD stopped a part series yet kept a compatible offering.

 

[tag01]

Hey good idea!!

 

[tag01]

Almost for got to mention I picked up stumpjumper pan tonight. I did not think $80 was to bad compared to a $435 slip clutch until I saw the size of this thing. It is about the size of a toilet seat. However I was reading another thread from a guy with a broken PTO shaft that led me to a website that has yoke mounted slip clutch's in New york. So there still is hope thanks to all the nice people that use TBN.