Suggestions for first time tractor buyer?

   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer? #1  

tlang

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New to this board and finding a wealth of information out there. thank you. My wife and I are in the process of purchasing a 4.8ac property in Colorado and I am looking to buy my first tractor! I'm excited, but very overwhelmed. Any suggestions, help, or other words of wisdom will be much appreciated.

the specifics of the property and use are: 4.8ac, 75% ponderosa pine forest & scrub oak, 25% native meadow. lightly hilled with slopes to max of 15 degrees. We will be building a new home on the lot so we will have several one time uses (utility line trenching, landscaping, fencing, drive installation, etc.) as well on going tasks (mowing, tree planting, snow removal, etc).

I don't know the first thing about buying a tractor starting with appropriate size/hp, brand, attachments, etc. Anyways, thanks in advance for any help.

-Tony
 
   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer? #2  
JWelcome to the boards. You will find people here knowledgable and polite in addition to being possessed of a more or less uniform desire to help you spend your money.

Step 1 -- read all the posts here about buying/pricing for all the major brands

Step 2 -- read them again

Step 3 -- visit all your local dealers, get a feel for the personality, professionalism, customer care, etc. Pick up brochures for everything you even remotely think you might be interested in.

Step 4 -- read the literature, then read posts here again

Step 5 -- revisit the dealers, sit on machines

Step 6 -- read posts here again, ask more questions here

Step 7 -- rethink what you'll do with the tractor

Step 8 -- read posts here in both the buying and using forums

Step 9 -- go drive a couple of tractors preferably with some attachments on them

Step 10 -- read posts here again, ask more questions

Etc., etc., etc., Take your time since a tractor could last you the rest of your life if you want it to.
 
   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer? #3  
"We will be building a new home on the lot so we will have several one time uses (utility line trenching, landscaping, fencing, drive installation, etc.) as well on going tasks (mowing, tree planting, snow removal, etc). "

Are you planning on building the home...or having it built? How much of the land are you planning to clear? How big a lawn to you expect to have, when the job is completed?

If you plan to do most of the larger tasks yourself, you can rent a dedicated trencher. Depending on the terrain, landscaping might be better done by a bulldozer.

Most of the "one time" tasks are probably better off contracted out...get a professional, it'd be faster and cheaper.

Then assess your tasks. I'm sure you'll make a better decision then...
 
   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer? #4  
Over Thanksgiving, I had a conversation with one of my brother-in-laws that paralells this thread. He's a "city boy" that married into a farm family. His wife (my wifes sister) already owned 22 acres in the boonies when they met. After 4 years of living in town, they're ready to make their big move to the country.

And Mike gets to buy his first ever tractor! Friday afternoon, he sat on one of mine. That marks the first time in his life he's been on a farm tractor. He wants me to help him (1) decide which tractor would best suit him, and (2) help him FIND a deal on that tractor.

Here's what I told him.

First and foremost, with little experience, he wants a SAFE tractor. No antiques with hand clutches, no brakes, and no fenders. Some of what are considered operator convenience items are, in my book, more SAFTEY related than convenience. Those would be; Power steering, hydraulic (wet) brakes, ROPS, good lighting, parking brake, and(in the hands of a relative "newcomer") hydrostatic tranny.

Consider NOTHING without 3-point hitch. (Some older models are still around without)

Diesel is far more economical to operate, lasts longer, and is somewhat safer. (low fire hazard)

OPTIONS; Auxilery hydraulics are almost standard on todays tractors. You can get by without, but you'll regret "getting by" at some point. Front end Loaders are worth their weight in gold. Problem is, they sometimes COST their weight in gold. 4WD isn't required, but its nice. ESPECIALLY in snow or mud. It also allows a smaller tractor to do the job of a larger one in most cases.

Size/Horsepower; There's no substitute for horsepower. Don't go too small. If you're taking care of an established lawn, or just mowing grass, you can get away with small. However, when tacling bigger chores, you need bigger power. That's not to say you need 100 HP. But don't go for the smallest either. To me, I'd be inclined to go 30 HP or bigger. (Personally, I'd opt for something around 45, but that's bigger than most "formula's" indicate you'll need)

Budget; Decide ahead of time just how much you plan on allocating to your "tractor fund". That should cover the tractor itself, any implements you plan on getting, plus some money set aside for routine maint. A GOOD dealer can help you "get in the ballpark" on a budget number for the equipment you'll want.

Dealer; As a newcomer to the game, you'll want a dealer that can walk you through the buying process, keep you on the path to proper care and maint, as well as get you the service you need when you need it. This is probably the trickiest part of the entire process. In most cases, you won't know a bad dealer from good until you're involved with them. I'd suggest finding a few owners in your area and picking their brains. From what I've seen, most tractor owners are quick to share their experiences. (A friendly lot, we are!)

Don't be afraid to ask questions. No matter how basic, or how "dumb" they might seem, ask away. That's the best way to avoid common mistakes.

This isn't rocket science. There isn't "one right and a million wrong" options. Chances are, you can get the job done, and be quite happy with most any brand.

And (excuse my rude-ness) wlcome to TBN! I've only been around here for a few months. It's a great place with an even greater bunch of folks.

If you'd like, send me your checkbook or Visa card, and I'll be more than happy to buy what I think you need! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer? #5  
With less than 5 acres, I think you could get by with a 20-25HP compact utility tractor (CUT) with a front end loader (FEL). I bought a new Kubota B7510HST (21 HP engine, 16 HP on the power take off (PTO)) with the LA302 FEL for $12,600 last May (10% down, 0% APR for 36 months). It's easy to operate with the hydrostatic transmission (HST). The FEL has proven to be indispensible since it makes the tractor many times more useful.

I added a King Kutter (KK) box blade (48" wide) for $375 from Tractor Supply Co. (TSC) to smooth the driveway and cut a half-mile of exercise path along my fenceline.

Then I bought a KK rotary mower (brush hog, 48" wide) for $675 from TSC to mow my 10 acres of weeds.

For my new house I decided to rent a Ditch Witch 1330 trencher from Home Depot (~$125/day) and dug about 1100 feet of trenches at various depths (12", 18", 24") to satisfy local building codes. I couldn't justify the cost of a backhoe for this one-time job.

I suppose a backhoe would be useful for planting trees and shrubs, but I'll probably do this by hand since I have less than 50 plants to install.

I'll eventually buy a post-hole digger (PHD) that works off the three-point hitch (3pt) and the PTO once I get motivated to replace the two furlongs of rusty farm fence that fronts on the roads. Cost will probably be around $700 with augers.
 
   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer? #6  
daTeacha....well written!!! You're suggestions should always be the title for the Buying/Pricing/Comparison forum.
 
   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer? #7  
Welcome.

You have found THE source for tractor and tractor related questions.

One thing, if I may add, is to look in your crystal ball in the future and see where you may be at. Tough call, yep. But if your into the property for the long haul, not much of a peek.

I'd look not nearly as hard as the current need - matching a tractor to that, but look at the long term needs. What I mean here is clearing land COULD be a one time deal, with someone elses equipment. Maintaining that land may get you into a different class machine altogether.

What ever your choice, and your needs, like a previous noter said, read away, dream on and enjoy the knowledge sharing!

Good luck!
-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer? #8  
You probably don't need or want too big a tractor considering the small amount of mowing you will be doing and the fact that you will have to maneuver in the woods that comprise most of your land. A subcompact utility tractor (SUB-CUT) is probably your best bet. They are the least expensive if you have a limited budget. As you will see when you read through the site, the dealer becomes as important as the brand. Check on the dealers near you and visit them and then check the brand-specific threads on this site to read comments on the suitable tractors made by that manufacturer.
 
   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer?
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Thanks to all who have added their thoughts. Very helpful. I'll be doing alot of research and keep reading the threads as suggested. Unfortunatly, we are currently living in Arizona and I'm unable to visit the dealers till this spring once we return to Colorado. Again thanks and thanks to all who have helped, keep it coming.

-Tony
 
   / Suggestions for first time tractor buyer? #10  
Hey Tony, I have been looking for tractor for the same type chores as you mentioned. Budget is tight, so I have really watched prices as well. These are the tractors I checked out.
Kioti CK20 (too expensive(( in my area))/dealer issues/not as smooth as Kubota or Deere/poor resale)
Deere 4110/4115 (My favorite tractors. Too expensive in my area)
Kubota 7510/7610 (I decided to go with 7610 because it is so close in price to 7510, but more HP) $1000 difference
I liked the sound of New Holland tc24, didn't know there was a dealer in my area until I was researched out! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
These are all 20-25 HP CUTs.
It's a place to start if you want to research before you get home. Hope this helps some.
 

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