Suggestions To Get Haybine To Cut Better

[LouNY]

The KUHN line has the finger conditioners in the mounted as well as the pull type,
the finger type seem to do as well as rolls for our hay crops.
I would rather have a pull type with the hydro swing then a mounted for the easy of mowing and less bouncing on the tractor compared to the mounted.
I hydro swing 80% of our fields when mowing, mow down with the mower to the right side and back with the mower to the left and work my way across a field,
that allows me to keep the short rows in one area.

 

[Hay Dude]

I am going to try the suggestions on here and see how it goes. I was looking at the manual today and it looks like my haybine is set-up how it came from the factory. It doesn't look like anyone has adjusted anything (cutterbar angle, reel cam timing, reel speed via a sheave on the belt, etc). One day I would like to get a small 3 pt discbine. Thanks!

Youll wonder why you waited. In fact you may kick yourself for waiting. Its a night & day difference. Another big plus is the cut is so much cleaner, youll actually make more bales, increasing productivity. Youll cut so much faster, you can take on more hay fields. You can also cut damp fields in a pinch. That increases the number of days you can be productive.

I ran SP haybines for 20 years and they are nice, but the plugging and the mowhawks get really old.
I see older discbines around for $5K

 

[zzvyb6]

See! Instead of wrenching with a 9/16 box wrench for an hour, just go out and buy a $6000 to $9000 drum or disc mower. Problem solved. It's the Facebook Way mentality !

This may be why I only charge $2.00 for a bale of good horse hay, they come get it on-time when it's baled, they load it and are on their way, and I'm out of inventory. Meanwhile, all the others around here want $6.00 to $8.00 for the same hay and it's still out in the field getting wet, or in their mow unsold along with last years crop. At a bale every 13 seconds, $240/ hour plus fuel, twine and mowing raking time. Believe me, I'm WAY ahead.

 

[5030]

The KUHN line has the finger conditioners in the mounted as well as the pull type,
the finger type seem to do as well as rolls for our hay crops.
I would rather have a pull type with the hydro swing then a mounted for the easy of mowing and less bouncing on the tractor compared to the mounted.
I hydro swing 80% of our fields when mowing, mow down with the mower to the right side and back with the mower to the left and work my way across a field,
that allows me to keep the short rows in one area.

A hydro swing is too big for his tractor, read his signature box.... Besides, he has a 540-6spline. Most hyrdo swings are semi mount, 1000-21 spline anyway and way to large for his acreage.

 

[5030]

Kuhn makes nice hay tools but Kuhn is regional. IOW, Kuhn is unheard of around here, where as New Holland and JD and even Kubota are nationwide. Like Vermeer. Never seen any here, no dealers, no presence at all. I would never buy any equipment that isn't supported by at least one local dealer. Stuff breaks and parts are needed, usually asap so it behooves a person to buy supported machinery.

 

[LouNY]

I'm not sure how "regional" KUHN is there home base is in Brodhead, Wisconsin.
I do see that they suggest 80hp for the discbine, if the OP wants to go bigger it does take more.
Or stay with a sickle bar haybine which is also available with the hydro swing from various manufactures.
I can see buying equipment which a local dealer supports, as far as parts ASAP depending on the part I have seen it take some time even with Nation wide dealer networks.
If it has to be shipped in it doesn't make much difference were the dealer is.

The normal mowing tractor is a 7110 Magnum

 

[Ortimber]

This guy (Pete) might be of help:

all about HAYBINES: how they work, adjustment, maintenance, and what to look for when buying - YouTube

This is becoming one of my favorite channels.

 

[Farmer495]

Kuhn makes nice hay tools but Kuhn is regional. IOW, Kuhn is unheard of around here, where as New Holland and JD and even Kubota are nationwide. Like Vermeer. Never seen any here, no dealers, no presence at all. I would never buy any equipment that isn't supported by at least one local dealer. Stuff breaks and parts are needed, usually asap so it behooves a person to buy supported machinery.

Kuhn does make nice stuff, mower-tedder-rake they made leading stuff. I'd say in the 80s most farms in this area had at least one piece of Kuhn hay equipment. Still running an old Kuhn tedder here.

They had a disc mower conditioner in this area before anyone else. Deere bought Kuhn cutter bars for their machines and even badge engineered 3pt mowers and tedders.

 

[Hay Dude]

See! Instead of wrenching with a 9/16 box wrench for an hour, just go out and buy a $6000 to $9000 drum or disc mower. Problem solved. It's the Facebook Way mentality !

This may be why I only charge $2.00 for a bale of good horse hay, they come get it on-time when it's baled, they load it and are on their way, and I'm out of inventory. Meanwhile, all the others around here want $6.00 to $8.00 for the same hay and it's still out in the field getting wet, or in their mow unsold along with last years crop. At a bale every 13 seconds, $240/ hour plus fuel, twine and mowing raking time. Believe me, I'm WAY ahead.

Oh, I get it. A guy goes out and buys a discbine and in your myopic view, hes a hack. Maybe we should go back to gathering loose hay and selling it for $50 a ton? :laughing:
A discbine is a money maker, not a money loser. And by the way, I get $10/bale picked up at the barn. $12/bale local delivery:laughing:
Let me know how ahead you are when your haybine takes 8 hours to cut a big difficult field and rains coming in 2-3 days. Meanwhile a discbine has got the field cut and teddered by lunchtime and the sun is doing its job. Your field is finished being cut when the sun is going down and misses a whole afternoon of sun. Must work great in a damp, cold state like Michigan :laughing:

Sounds like another case of I hate what we wish I had

Dont throw shade on someone for buying a hay tool, like a discbine, thats been the industry standard since 1985.
And another thing....selling hay for $2/bale just screws everyone else. It keeps everyones prices in the 1960s, which it sounds like you have decided to stay in.
I have a transistor radio and a Ford Pinto for sale. Anyone interested? :laughing::laughing:

 

[LouNY]

Well we have both over on the farm, the discbine which gets used for most of the hay,
but the older haybine is still here and gets used every year for certain crops and fields.
Tip it back on the heel of the shoes and go mow a ledgey field that we do or a new field
on shares or buying the hay with no idea of were the rocks are.
Much less expensive to replace a few sickle sections then having to repair discbine heads and gears.
And on some crops that have lodged the header reel can save more feed then the discbine,
may have to mow the field in one direction which is time consuming but quality feed is expensive.
And some years quite valuable.
Also some of the smaller operations that are only doing 40 to 80 acres of hay with slower equipment can do as good
a quality job and at times better then super fast and big.
Around here to be considered one of the big boys you need a Big Mo or triple or 5 head discbine on 300 hp tractors,
a big self propelled chopper or big square bailer and a fleet of trucks.
Then on wet years you can compact and rut up your ground with the best of'em.