SuperSteer

[whitetiger]

Remember also your front axle piviots and does not add any stability until it hits the stops.
We hardly ever sell a C.U.T. without Supersteer. Customers love the fact that the front of the tractor will almost move side ways when in full turn.

 

[rjanko]

From my experience it really depends on your use... how tight do you need to work. Supersteer comes into play alot in horse operations... around barns, paddocks, rings and such... and I've also appreciated it with the tree removal work I have done manuvering around the trees I am saving. If you have tight quarters to work around it is the only way to go... it was the deciding factor for me and I am very happy I went with it.

Rich

 

[PineRidge]

For those of you that may not be familiar with SuperSteer here's what a really tight turn looks like.

 

[mahlers]

I've got SuperSteer on my TN70, and I really like it. The adverse yaw characteristics are easy enough to get used to, and easy to learn how to use to your advantage. For example, when I'm attaching my backhoe to the subframe and I'm a little off side-to-side, I can just turn the wheel a little bit and the whole tractor pivots around. Often, it's just enough to line up the hangars on the subframe hitch.

Also, with SuperSteer on a larger framed tractor like the TN series, I can do things that I definitely couldn't easily do with a smaller tractor an standard steering. I maneuver around some *really* tight spots with ease, and I've grown to really love the system.

On the downside, I've noticed that the steering can occasionally lock-up when I'm in deep gravel and stationary. This happens very occasionally when I'm just in 4WD, and it happens very frequently when I've got the axles locked. It's a little annoying, and it's eventually going to get addressed at the repair shop...

 

[PineRidge]

<font color="blue"> On the downside, I've noticed that the steering can occasionally lock-up when I'm in deep gravel and stationary. This happens very occasionally when I'm just in 4WD, and it happens very frequently when I've got the axles locked. It's a little annoying, and it's eventually going to get addressed at the repair shop...
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Mahlers I think what you are describing is definitely a service related problem. I have never had an issue with steering in any conditions, loose, packed, muddy or otherwise.

Once we purposely slowly loaded a pallet with steel until we could no longer lift it off the ground. We then took about a 50 pounds of steel back off the pallet so that the 17LA loader could then just squeak it off the ground at higher RPMs. At that point we were still able to easily spin the steering wheel from side to side.

We had no power steering on our last rig so we are thrilled with the SuperSteer on this one.

 

[thcri]

I guess I am not sure about what he means by locking up. I am assuming the steering wheel. However, on my TC29D if I get in real loose sand like what you find on our beech if I do turn the wheels way to one side the tractor will no longer turn but try to push itself straight forward. I have to back off on the tight radius of the turn.

murph

 

[mahlers]

When I say 'locking up' I mean the steering wheel won't budge left or right. It only happens intermittently. The service technician was able to reproduce it - but couldn't figure out what was causing it. Since I can live with the problem for the time being, I decided to just bring the tractor home.... Eventually, whatever is 'kind of' broken will be totally broken, and then they can have at it again.

 

[PineRidge]

That sounds like a sticky spool valve to me. It may never break completely if it is.

 

[mahlers]

Could very well be exactly that.... Thanks for the note. I'm going to write it down and the next time the tractor is in the shop I'm going to ask the tech to have a look.

 

[EquipmentJunkie]

I have driven a few New Holland tractors with SuperSteer in the last several years. I simply fell in love with the SuperSteer option. My next tractor will have it.

Mowing, three-point dirt work, and even maneuvering around in tight quarters is much easier with a SuperSteer tractor. I personally think its great. But, I understand why some don't like it. That's why it is an option.

I find the anti-SuperSteer propaganda put out by some companies to be amusing. SuperSteer is obviously a sore spot to those companies without the option.

In the next few years, the patent will run out on the SuperSteer design. I think that you will see CaseIH offer SuperSteer on their tractors at that time. Heck, why not? All the development, tooling, logistics, and monetary investment has been spent.

Question: How much do you want to bet that Deere will introduce their own tight-turn design, similar to SuperSteer, on some models? Deere will call it some fancy name, unleash their brilliant marketing department on the case, and make the average American farmer believe that Deere invented the tight-turn concept! Deere knows that SuperSteer is a tremendous feature with loads of benefits (mainly in row-crop farming).

It is just a matter of time until New Holland has company with the SuperSteer feature. SuperSteer, as optional equipment, is here to stay.