Surveyor question?

[Jstpssng]

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It almost seems that there should be a required course on basic land ownership with emphasis on boundary law before people can buy their first piece of real estate.
It's my observation that the less land somebody owns, the more rabid they are about what they think is theirs despite what their deed says.

MY guy (old skool) uses bearing (compass)and distances (string reel with counter) to locate monuments...

Topometric string - hip-chain distance measurer | Dendrotik

Generally all boundary lines I have been associated with have uses monuments... Even the one on adjacent property I used GPS to locate monument was on plot map... On thee of my monuments (3/4 rebar driven into ground) that were hard to locate I places a "T" stake (fence) within a foot or so if rebar to easier locate it for future references...

Dale

I have both, and used to survey and lay out precommercial thinning blocks where the guys were paid by the acre. I can pace as accurately as using a string box; especially in open areas where the string stretches. If all that you are doing is locating existing monuments the string box or a hand held GPS is indeed accurate enough.

 

[oosik]

The most expensive/accurate personal GPS unit available will not even be on the same continent as the CHEAPEST unit available to a surveyor.

Then there is this - surveyors unit uses much more accurate coordinates - surveyor has training on how to survey and how to use his equipment - all of which a private party does not.

When was the last time you considered having the neighbor's gardener perform open heart surgery on you??? There is a direct parallel.

 

[Zebrafive]

A little off topic, sorry, years ago we cut off 1 3/4 acres and gave it to my mother to build on. We owned on three sides. When she died and we sold this parcel. A neighbor, two houses away, that owns one acre told the new owners he OWNED on all three sides around them. I told them next time they see him ask to see his deed.

 

[yomax4]

The most expensive/accurate personal GPS unit available will not even be on the same continent as the CHEAPEST unit available to a surveyor.

Then there is this - surveyors unit uses much more accurate coordinates - surveyor has training on how to survey and how to use his equipment - all of which a private party does not.

When was the last time you considered having the neighbor's gardener perform open heart surgery on you??? There is a direct parallel.

No doubt that the surveyors have the best equipment and training. No dispute. Fact is when questioned, They came back and Re-marked the lines closer to where the hand held GPS said they were. My point was that even with the best equipment, The Human factor is still there.

 

[Snaker]

Interesting thread. My brother was a registered land surveyor and I helped on occasion.
Modern surveying (as in the last 10-15 years) has been such a change that its a different animal from the older style. Many times a survey would start maybe a mile away or more from a property just to get some reference points.
It was line of sight so you brushed out a sightline or figured in some offsets. Now a tech / assistant moves a GPS tripod around a few foot area until it zero's on a point calculated by a computer.
If a owner wanted to parcel off a piece then a surveyor might have to brush out a 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile along the owners plan border line. If the owner suddenly decides to shift the line a few feet to go around a rock the surveyor might either punch them in the face or ask them "How much money you got?" Now days that wouldn't be a huge deal, just some recalculating for a relatively small price.

As far as some of the griping and groaning about where the line is or should be, the golden property line rule still holds true today. Don't build anything within 10 feet of your property line and you will reduce the change of being surprised when a neighbor challenges it.

 

[bcp]

Bruce