Synthetic Oil

[Docsknotinn]

Shhhhhh. The truth may never be known. Mobil 1 makes Amsoil. Amsoil is Mobil 1. They are one and the same. Repeat this every 10 seconds until u go 2 sleep. Oil iz oil. Oil iz goot. Its all goot, Watch the oil bottle, your getting sleeeeeepy now...... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[arthr31]

heh... i'm gonna delete this as soon as i find the <any> key on my computera.

alright, all have maybe had a good laff, lets end this peacefully. just buy some amsoil and get on with the real life!! HA HA HA

 

[Docsknotinn]

I already BURN amsoil. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[gsxr1100]

boy this thread has such much info it is crazy!!!!

 

[KennyV]

It would appear if you inject too many facts some people get upset and poof… ? As to use … I have always used Mobil1, BUT I believe I am about to convert to Amsoil.
Hope someone can figure out HOW information can be posted, without having to cut and paste each piece of a thread, fearing it will all disappear /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif. KennyV.

 

[Docsknotinn]

I guess if were going to have that debate then we have to talk brand A Vs Brand M as product wars are not allowed as per the headline I received when making this post. I guess I received a moderator warning but I'm not sure because it just popped up when making this post. No idea if it's directed at just me or everyone posting on this thread. I guess we also have to set aside the witty banter even if it's all in good fun. Some folks are a wittle sensative and can read that as not being respectfull of one another. I thought I just missed the fireworks when I was out of town the last few days. Anyhow I'd sure like to get back to posting Oil analysis so we could all benefit and maybe learn something. I dont know how to scan but I can post my numbers if anyone is interested. I would like to say in all honesty it makes very little difference IMHO what synthetic you use. It really just gets down to brand loyalty. When you go to brand A's website there are breakdown comparisons but not all are Apples to Apples. In either event they are all very close.

 

[gsxr1100]

I do not know if I buy the “brand loyalty” 100% . I used and liked Mobil in the past but grow tired of the following:

1) There CS tech people are rude and can’t give you answers when you want them

2) They had long extended drains, the stopped, now started again.

3) They used to state long ago that it was synthetic and it was not based on carrier adds

4) They do not post technical data on there website to make a proper selection. Why not post HTHS, CCS, four ball, flash to name a few.

5) I do not like ash in my oils. If you have a hot engine, again I personally do not like it.

6) some of there oils (most have moly) and I do not like that.

I get Amsoil pretty cheap and it does not make sense to switch.

 

[Docsknotinn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I do not know if I buy the “brand loyalty” 100% . I used and liked Mobil in the past but grow tired of the following:

1) There CS tech people are rude and can’t give you answers when you want them

2) They had long extended drains, the stopped, now started again.

3) They used to state long ago that it was synthetic and it was not based on carrier adds

4) They do not post technical data on there website to make a proper selection. Why not post HTHS, CCS, four ball, flash to name a few.

5) I do not like ash in my oils. If you have a hot engine, again I personally do not like it.

6) some of there oils (most have moly) and I do not like that.

I get Amsoil pretty cheap and it does not make sense to switch.
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I agree with you on many points but its all pretty darn close IMHO.

1) I found the same to be true with both Mobil and Amsoil. The only real peeve I have with Amsoil is the corporate stance about suing OEMS.
2)The new marketing program for M1 stinks, but I think Amsoil does the same in reverse by marketing the underdog and slamming on "big oil" comapnies.
3) My understanding is M1 and Amsoil are both pure synthetic stock but M1 keeps changing formulas so its a bit hard to keep up with.
4) The answer is marketing. In one test Amsoil would be better, the next M1 and the next Pennzoil. I bet the M1 gurus hate that.
5) I completely agree with you on the ash. I never realized it was a component by weight. I think the most relevant issue is what is the ash content on your oil analysis. I come up with <0.1% on every test. Two labs and consistant with what other guys have posted. What do you show on yours after 10-15k? You will always wind up with some ash after the product is used, Right?
6) I know the Molly issue is a deal breaker for some. I can't say I see the difference based on my results.

I would certainly be more open to brand A if I could get a better price. Best of luck,
Dave

 

[kenmac]

I don't know what part ash & moly play in the process as I'm sure it plays some roll for them to add it to the oil. I agree with you though, if I could get am. oil for less or the same as m-1 I also would change brands.