Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building?

[95XL883]

Delete all other responses from this thread and just leave this one. Most common sense answer.

That said, just got me thinking about actual historic homes... How much of the structure would be "original"?

On one that is truly historic, as in on list of registered historic places, the answer is whatever the local preservation society says must be. I've dealt with them before, they are way more tenacious than Rock Knocker. If they want, they will make it be rebuilt with all new materials to make it look exactly like the original structure. They can make you can find used materials that they consider appropriate. Here's the real rub, once a building is registered as historic the owner can't just tear it down and build something new. It all has to have the preservation society's blessing.

If I ever own a building that is about to be put on that registry, I would seriously consider tearing it down before they list it.

 

[95XL883]

Wrongo. That was in 1906. The penalty has been adjusted for inflation

Wrongo. There is no penalty for this one. The old structure is not historic or prehistoric, nor is it an antiquity. Wish the OP well. He should just go get the rock that has meaning to him.

 

[John White]

About 65 years ago I lived out west, in the logging country, at a sawmill camp. I had shot a nice buck during hunting season. We already had antlerless hanging on our walls. Dad said do something else with them. I was being drafted into the Army. I took them out back where no one could see them, climbed high up in a tree and tied them. Shortly after, mill closed, houses tore down, and property became BLM and fenced off because a Indian burial grounds were found and become a culture center. Ten years later after relocating in another state, just out of curosioty I went back. I found the tree and to my amazement they were still up there, pretty well weathered, bleached and cracked. I just climbed up and took what was mine. Back then a drilling co. came in and was drilling for water. (I found out later they were drilling for something else) they broke a big drill bit and told up kids if we could carry it off we could have it. We got a big rope and several kids and we drug it off and (don't ask me why) buried it. I guess playing pirates. I have often wondered what the culture center would say if I drove up and say "I would like to retrieve a drill bit buried on your sacred grounds"

 

[CobyRupert]

Good gosh, just take the freakin' rock. Nobody cares about it, but you.

Around here, rock (run through a crusher) sells for less than a penny a pound. Leave a couple nickels there and call it good.

This is definitely one of those cases that proves:

"It's better to ask forgiveness than permission."

 

[Groo]

but now we have established intent to commit a felony.

 

[MossRoad]

and conspiracy, too.

 

[joecoin]

Just make 2 new rocks with the same inscriptions and leave them in place of the originals.

 

[Oldoak]

Dadnatron, I believe you are definitely asking advice from the wrong people. You should pose your question directly to the Bureau of Land Management.

Your relatives may have owned it way back when, but it is now owned and managed by our Department of Interior.

MossRoad said it best in his first comment on this thread.

Edit: I see I am way late to enter upon this topic, however I still stand by my comment.

 

[Jstpssng]

From the link which Rock Knocker posted;
"Historic sites such as cabins, sawmills,
graves, trail traces, mining areas, townsites,
ranches and railroads are not open to
collecting."
That looks pretty plain to me.

 

[Sigarms]

On one that is truly historic, as in on list of registered historic places, the answer is whatever the local preservation society says must be. I've dealt with them before, they are way more tenacious than Rock Knocker. If they want, they will make it be rebuilt with all new materials to make it look exactly like the original structure. They can make you can find used materials that they consider appropriate. Here's the real rub, once a building is registered as historic the owner can't just tear it down and build something new. It all has to have the preservation society's blessing.

That's what I find ironic. If I want to see the Mona Lisa, I want to see the original, not a copy.

Historic Societies are worse than HOA IMO. Savanah and Charleston are pretty cool towns to visit, but no way would I ever own a structure that is associated with some kind of historic society as IMO you really don't own the structure.