Glowplug
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Farmwithjunk said:
I have been looking at discs from Monroe Tufline. I am interested in the model T4X92020 which is 8-feet and weighs 1445lbs. That's 72lbs per disc!!
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I have been looking at discs from Monroe Tufline. I am interested in the model T4X92020 which is 8-feet and weighs 1445lbs. That's 72lbs per disc!!
N80
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Tufline makes quite a range of discs. Anywhere from the typical angle frame, extreme light duty ones like at TSC to big, beefy, serious professional models.
I'm in the market for a disk too. An aquaintance just bought a Tufline that is very impressive. It says on its label it is one of the 'TH' models but does not look like the 'TH' models on the Tufline web site. It has 22" disks and this sucker is heavy. I'm not sure about the specs, but the website says around 1000 pounds with 20" disks. His has 22's and looks a little beefier than the one on the web site. I think it is the 6' 8" model. It has tubular gang hanger, rather than flanges and it has pillow block bearings rather than 'flange bearings.' I am very impressed with it.
I hooked it up to my 45 hp CUT. The 3pt specs say it will handle a disk this size. It lifted it okay but there was not much clearance between the front disks and the ground even with the hitch all the way up. So transporting would be tough. There was a lower set of hitch pin holes so that might resolve that problem. However, even though it lifted it...it strained and even with the loader on, it got light in the front. So I need a little smaller, somewhat lighter set.
The nice thing about the Tuflines and in particular this TH series is that you can get 18, 20 or 22" disks (notched or round), you can get 7 1/2 or 9 inch disk spacing and you can get the tubular gang hangers and pillow block bearings even in the smaller TH series disks. I'm going to take a look at a 6'4" model with 20" disks and I think my tractor would be able to handle it better. The TH series axles are also 1 1/8" compared to 1" in most of the others.
Now here is another thought. Tufline makes this same disk in a hinged model. On the hinged models you can get 9" disk spacing up front and 7 1/2 on the rear gangs. They say the 9" spacing is better for cutting and tilling while the 7 1/5 spacing is better for seed bed prep. At first I didn't pay much attention to the hinged model but then I thought of a few things. I'd like someone to confirm that I am correct in my thinking:
1) The hinged sets are heavier, which can be better.
2) With the rear gang folded on top of the front gangs, this should be easier on the 3pt system since you would have less weight hanging way out behind the lift points.
3) For cutting and digging you could keep the rear gangs folded over the front gangs to put a lot of weight on the front gangs for better cutting and digging action.
4) With the disk unfolded, you get better seed bed prep with the 9" spaced fronts cutting and the 7 1/2 inch spaced rears following to 'harrow' the seed bed.
To me, this sounds ideal. Especially since everything I am planning on disking will have been previously plowed.
In any case, sunspot, take a look at the Tuflines. If you primarily need cutting and tilling, one of the heavier Tuflines would be ideal. I have no idea how much these Tuflines cost, but I suspect a heavy hinged model with pillow block bearings is going to cost waaaay more than a KK, Howse or Leinbach.
If I can't afford a Tufline, I'll likely get a Leinbach. They are probably not any better than the KK, Howse and lower end Tuflines, but they make them nearby and I can pick one up for cheap.
I'm in the market for a disk too. An aquaintance just bought a Tufline that is very impressive. It says on its label it is one of the 'TH' models but does not look like the 'TH' models on the Tufline web site. It has 22" disks and this sucker is heavy. I'm not sure about the specs, but the website says around 1000 pounds with 20" disks. His has 22's and looks a little beefier than the one on the web site. I think it is the 6' 8" model. It has tubular gang hanger, rather than flanges and it has pillow block bearings rather than 'flange bearings.' I am very impressed with it.
I hooked it up to my 45 hp CUT. The 3pt specs say it will handle a disk this size. It lifted it okay but there was not much clearance between the front disks and the ground even with the hitch all the way up. So transporting would be tough. There was a lower set of hitch pin holes so that might resolve that problem. However, even though it lifted it...it strained and even with the loader on, it got light in the front. So I need a little smaller, somewhat lighter set.
The nice thing about the Tuflines and in particular this TH series is that you can get 18, 20 or 22" disks (notched or round), you can get 7 1/2 or 9 inch disk spacing and you can get the tubular gang hangers and pillow block bearings even in the smaller TH series disks. I'm going to take a look at a 6'4" model with 20" disks and I think my tractor would be able to handle it better. The TH series axles are also 1 1/8" compared to 1" in most of the others.
Now here is another thought. Tufline makes this same disk in a hinged model. On the hinged models you can get 9" disk spacing up front and 7 1/2 on the rear gangs. They say the 9" spacing is better for cutting and tilling while the 7 1/5 spacing is better for seed bed prep. At first I didn't pay much attention to the hinged model but then I thought of a few things. I'd like someone to confirm that I am correct in my thinking:
1) The hinged sets are heavier, which can be better.
2) With the rear gang folded on top of the front gangs, this should be easier on the 3pt system since you would have less weight hanging way out behind the lift points.
3) For cutting and digging you could keep the rear gangs folded over the front gangs to put a lot of weight on the front gangs for better cutting and digging action.
4) With the disk unfolded, you get better seed bed prep with the 9" spaced fronts cutting and the 7 1/2 inch spaced rears following to 'harrow' the seed bed.
To me, this sounds ideal. Especially since everything I am planning on disking will have been previously plowed.
In any case, sunspot, take a look at the Tuflines. If you primarily need cutting and tilling, one of the heavier Tuflines would be ideal. I have no idea how much these Tuflines cost, but I suspect a heavy hinged model with pillow block bearings is going to cost waaaay more than a KK, Howse or Leinbach.
If I can't afford a Tufline, I'll likely get a Leinbach. They are probably not any better than the KK, Howse and lower end Tuflines, but they make them nearby and I can pick one up for cheap.
Glowplug
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N80 said:
Nor do I. I would LOVE to know how much a 3ph lift type Tufline around 7'-8' wide with notched blades and scrapers weighing 1400-1500lbs would cost. I'm guessing over 2-Grand though! Yet another reason to play the lottery!
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sunspot
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Thanks firefighter. I'll check them out. Boaz is a bit of a trip for me but if I can save some bucks, what the heck. I live near Montevallo. Not much farming around here. Chilton Co has quite a few groves. It seems all the good used equipment is in Cullman Co.firefighter9208 said:
N80
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Glowplug said:Nor do I. I would LOVE to know how much a 3ph lift type Tufline around 7'-8' wide with notched blades and scrapers weighing 1400-1500lbs would cost. I'm guessing over 2-Grand though! Yet another reason to play the lottery!
Well, it just so happens that I stopped by a tractor dealership on my way home from work and they had a TH series 8' disk with 22" notched blades with 9" spacing, tubular gang hangers and beefy pillow block bearings. It weighs over 1100 pounds in that configuration and the dealer had it priced at around $1700. No scrapers. Now, that disk (as beefy as it is) is only rated up to 55 hp. However, to look at it, I feel certain it would be fine up to 70 hp. The fellow I know who has one is pulling it through some tough stuff with a 65 hp JD and there's no problem. It looks very well built.
So, the TL series, which is bigger, beefier and having scrapers will easily run $2000.
He also had some of the lower end ones. They looked a bit junky with 'C' shaped frames (better than angle iron, not as good as tubular) and some of the welds looked so-so. Plus, they were as much or more than a KK disk which has a tubular frame. So while the higher end Tuflines look like good stuff, the lower end is about the same as all the other lower end stuff.
I did look at the flange bearings (vs pillow block bearings) and to be honest, the flange bearings look plenty beefy enough for me and my purposes.
firefighter9208
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sunspot said:
Montevallo isn't that far away. I 59 North to Gadsden. Get off on 431 and head North (I think). It's about 15 miles from Gadsden to Albertville. Lowery is real easy to find. Call them if your going to go and pick up a disk and they'll make sure to have one in stock.
Chris
Farmwithjunk
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firefighter9208 said:
A local "shortline" dealer who went out of business a few years back, sold LMC equipment. When he closed up and auctioned off his remaining inventory, I bought a 7'-6" LMC 3-point disc. It was well made, reasonably heavy, and built with the same "generic" parts as 90% of the 3-point disc's available on todays market. I have no issues with their products over-all. The LMC disc did have one minor fault. The "strut" running rearward from the top link "A frame" to the back of the disc was a little flimsy. I used the disc while I was re-shaping and seeding a couple waterways on my farm. To make the disc cut in our hard clay, I added 400lbs of suitcase weights to the frame. That made it dig right in. The disc wanted to rotate around the front gang, raising the rear of the disc as it was pulled forward. The strut I'm referring to buckled almost immediately. It was made with 2 pieces of flat stock, roughly 1/4" X 2" X 30" to 36" long. They were spaced approx. 1-1/2" apart. After they buckled, I removed them, straightened them, and then sandwiched a piece of 1-1/2" iron pipe in between them as a stiffener. Then I re-installed the strut. At that point, I could weght the disc enough to make it dig right in, and there were no further issues. It performed flawlessly after that minor repair.
After completing the task at hand, I sold the disc. (For a tidy profit!!!!) I see the current owner quite often, and have never heard of any problems with the disc. (Believe me when I say this guy would expect me to warranty ANY problems he should encounter for eternity)
IMHO, the LMC disc is as good as most any disc in its price range. The one and only apparent "weak link" was easily beefed up to handle heavy use/heavy weighting. The strut is the same or simular to just about every comparable disc I've seen. I wouldn't hesitate for one moment to recommend an LMC disc to anyone who's shopping for a medium duty 3-point disc in that price range. But like almost anything, it isn't perfect.
RoughneckDave
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LMC makes good stuff ofr the money
i have a BB and Bushhog made by LMC, both bought used and haven't had aany problems with them. The BB is the MT line, their HD box blade and its pretty solid
you would do well with a disc by them
I was looking at them till i ran across a used Tufline. Bought disc and replaced 8 bearings for less the half a new tufline 6'8" folding disc costs new.Had to do some minor welding on it, but like new except for the paint.
dave
i have a BB and Bushhog made by LMC, both bought used and haven't had aany problems with them. The BB is the MT line, their HD box blade and its pretty solid
you would do well with a disc by them
I was looking at them till i ran across a used Tufline. Bought disc and replaced 8 bearings for less the half a new tufline 6'8" folding disc costs new.Had to do some minor welding on it, but like new except for the paint.
dave
RollTideRam
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Call them to see if they have a dealer down your way. I live about the same distance as you and can by LMC in Hartselle. Boazlawnandgarden.com is probably the place to buy from if you have to go. JC