TC-45 transmission split open

[MikePA]

Well, we've all been talking about whether RC1 had used a 3PH backhoe, but his original post just said the tractor had one used on it for 250 hours. He also mentioned that it was a Woods 9000. Hmm... I went to the Woods site and guess what kind of backhoe it is?

Woods 9000

I guess you just can't put one over on this TBN gang. We had the problem "nailed" from the very beginning.

The site does show some kind of frame that looks like it fits under the rear differential. I didn't spend enough time researching it to determine if it was std or optional. I figured the original poster would return. Silly me. Actually, RC1s only 2 posts have been in this thread. Hmm.

 

[Egon]

Most backhoe work is done with all four wheels off the ground.

Bucket lifts the front wheels and helps hold hoe in place,the stabilizers lift and level the hoe so the operator has a vertical dig postion.

 

[PineRidge]

Most backhoe work is done with all four wheels off the ground.

Bucket lifts the front wheels and helps hold hoe in place,the stabilizers lift and level the hoe so the operator has a vertical dig postion.

Egon that's not the way NH intended Class III machines to be used. That's what we are discussing here, a TC-45

 

[Egon]

If that's the case the backhoe part may as well be left at the dealer as it will not function properly.

 

[whitetiger]

The reason sometimes a unit is totaled from a major casting breaking in two is the other damage caused. A lot of subsequent damage is also caused by trying to move or load the damaged unit. Breaking hoods, streching hyd lines and breaking pumps and valves they are mounted to. Also linkages are pulled tight and break or bend other components and on and on and on. I have rebuilt tractors that have burned and that have been in traffic accidents and farm accidents. It looks like a simple repair to start with but by the time you finish????????????????? The little things add up reallllllllllllllly fast!
A casting that is just cracked usually is not a major problem to repair.

<I agree with you that they simplify things somewhat, but sometimes at the cost of scrapping the whole tractor <when they crack

Why do you figure that you have to scrap an entire tractor because a single one of it's modular castings break.

Are you telling me that you would junk your entire tractor if say? A side axle trumpet broke? If so.. put me on your insurer's 'scrap' list.. I'll gladly buy that junk tractor from them at scrap out price and throw a wrench on it and slap a new/used axle trumpet on it and small the entire time.

Same goes for any one of the individually replaceable castings...tranny, diffy.. hyds.. etc, etc.

Replacing the tranny section in a tractor with a frame rail would be similar in scope to replacing a tractors tranny casing in a monolithic cast frame unit. Ya still gotta remove the bad part, and install the new parts... I just don't understand this line of thinking that you are pushing that any casting damage anywhere on the tractor destroys the entire tractor. It's like you are considering the entire tractor as a single piece of cast metal from the hood back to the pto shaft... when it ain't.. it's alot of bolt together sections which can be individually replaced...


Soundguy

 

[Doc_Bob]

The problem that I see is that folks have a tendency to lift the rear wheels off the ground with the BH stabilizers. When this happens with a 3-point mounted BH the digging force is directed to the tractor castings, all the way to the front axle wich is still firmly anchored on the ground. We know what can happen next.

Casting, as you point out, was not designed for these forces.
Bob

 

[Soundguy]

Anyone hear from the original poster? email? etc?

Soundguy

 

[schmism]

ie it has turned into the last "tractor broke in half" thread.... a single pic and run

 

[Doc_Bob]

Anyone hear from the original poster? email? etc?

Soundguy

Makes me wonder if any of the post is true.
Bob

 

[Soundguy]

Makes me wonder if any of the post is true.
Bob

Makes me wonder whether someone was fishing for info, re: the lawsuit.

On another board ( not tbn ) a couple years ago.. we got a post from a new member saying they had rolled their tractor and then asking all sorts of questions about lawsuits.. and what our opinions were on the safety of those tractors. and that manufacturer..Some bait was left.. prejudicial.. etc... About 3-4 messages in.. we finally pried out why the tractor had flipped... a huge.. huge case of operator error, stupidity, and lack of the common sense a snail has... We immediatly identified this person as fishing, and called her to the carpet for more info.. turned out to be a legal aid at a lawyers office digging for 'precedent' and general public consensus on how we felt about the safety of that tractor in general.

We all finishe dout post in that thread with a " the tractor was doing what it was told to do by the stupid careless operator".. and left it at that.. never hear another thing.

That has a similar ring here..

Soundguy