TC29D versus TC33D and Supersteer

Neophyte · Jul 20, 2003

I'm currently looking at the TC29D and TC33D tractors. The specs are nearly identical except for some additional HP on the TC33D. Oddly enough the top speed is less on the TC33D. The pump outputs are the same. My questions are:

* Is the extra HP worth the extra $800-$1000?
* Why would you need the supersteer option and is it worth the extra money?
* How much more is the supersteer option?
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TC29D TC33D
Engine HP 29 33
PTO HP 23.6 26.9
Speed 15.6mph 14.3mph
Hyd Pump 7.6gpm 7.6gpm

Thank You,
Neo

BigDave · Jul 20, 2003

Hello again,

The top speed is a typo - the Boomer catalog has the correct speed on the hydro-transmission page.

( Is the extra HP worth the extra $800-$1000? )

That depends if you need it. I live in very hilly terrain, so I am almost always going up or down a hill. My tires are filled, my MMM weighs about 500lbs, my FEL weighs over 800lbs and it is usually filled with something, so going up hill with over 2 tons tractor. Four extra HP is worth it to me. If I lived on a flat piece of land, the 29 would have been enough and I would have spent the money on an implement.

( Why would you need the supersteer option and is it worth the extra money? )

Don't know...I test drove both, and thought the standard steering worked pretty good. The SS linkages looked like more maintenance would be needed. I do tear up the lawn with my R4s if I make very sharp turns...SS may not, but I'm not sure.

( How much more is the supersteer option?
)

I've think it is about $1000-$1200.

DavidJ · Jul 21, 2003

I agree with Big Dave. Funny how us Daves agree /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif . I, of course, would say that the extra hp is definitely worth it /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif but then that's my opinion /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. You need to take a serious look at your uses and if the 29 is at all questionable then go for the 33. It's been said here before, very few if any have wished they'd gotten a smaller tractor but many wished for bigger.

Spencer · Jul 21, 2003

( * Is the extra HP worth the extra $800-$1000?
)

Back in the winter of 2001 when I bought my TC33D there was only $600 difference between the two. This was the same at both dealerships I was dealing with.

RCannon · Jul 21, 2003

For those of you with supersteer... Does anyone have R4 tires? If so do they tear your lawn up? I was told they may tear it up because of the supersteers tighter turning radius.

stumpman · Jul 21, 2003

Neophyte
I got the SS equipped TC29D for the same price as a non SS. I told the dealer that I didn't care if it had SS or not and that I could buy the Case DX29? for the same price as the TC29D without SS. All he had in stock at the time was one with SS, and since he wanted the sale, he gave me the SS at no cost!
I love it, I would have paid $2000 extra if I knew any better at the time. I works extremely well if you are mowing around a lot of trees. It takes a little getting used to with the FEL attached, the front will initially move in the opposite direction when you turn the wheels.

As far as ripping up the lawn with R4's, go slow and you won't have many problems.

Stumpman

thcri · Jul 21, 2003

Neophyte,

TC29D w/Super Steer here. I love my Super Steer for mowing. If you don't plan on doing any mowing with a mid mower then don't get it. There is some instances where it is nice with the loader but not many.

As far as the difference in HP. I have the 29 with a 72" MMM and it works great until I hit a steep hill then I just have to slow down some. Overall I am glad I didn't spent the extra for the 33. The grand difference will allow me to buy attachments.

I also have the R4's and have trouble with turning sharp and reckoning the lawn as long as you go into the turn slow. If you hit it fast you will tear it up some.

murph

FarmerChip · Jul 21, 2003

Here's my two cents on super steer. It is easier on turf than braking a tight turn. Lets you get away with R4s if you have to mow grass as well as more conventional farm chores. Another feature that comes with super steer is sensi trac (SP?). Basically auto 4wheel drive. the front wheels aren't enagaged unless there's 2.5% differential in the front to rear wheel speed. So you only get 4wd when you need it. Saves wear and tear on the front end as well as fuel. At least that's what my dealer says. I'm still making up my mind on a TC45D so we'll see.

Neophyte · Jul 22, 2003

Thank you to everyone for posting. This site is great! Your input is invaluable.

More questions to come... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Neo