TC35DA Hydraulic Power

   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #21  
"If it won't curl it at 1000 RPM, it won't curl it at 2000."

Why is it you believe that you don't have more power.. more hydraulic flow.. and higher hydraulic pressure at greater RPM's?
 
   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #22  
"If it won't curl it at 1000 RPM, it won't curl it at 2000."

Why is it you believe that you don't have more power.. more hydraulic flow.. and higher hydraulic pressure at greater RPM's?
 
   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #23  
More flow.. yes.. volume.. I'm not so sure that you have any more working pressure though, unless you have a very leaky system, and there is leakdown between pressure spikes from the pump.

The hyds on my tractor, at idle will lift a cyl, and then when it reaches full travel, the relief will kick. That means I'm developing my full 2500 psi.. at idle. If I am at full throttle, the cyl just moves faster... etc... no pressure difference.

Soundguy
 
   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #24  
More flow.. yes.. volume.. I'm not so sure that you have any more working pressure though, unless you have a very leaky system, and there is leakdown between pressure spikes from the pump.

The hyds on my tractor, at idle will lift a cyl, and then when it reaches full travel, the relief will kick. That means I'm developing my full 2500 psi.. at idle. If I am at full throttle, the cyl just moves faster... etc... no pressure difference.

Soundguy
 
   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #25  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( If I am at full throttle, the cyl just moves faster... etc... no pressure difference.)</font>

Since my tractor is hydrostatic.. your saying I should be able to pull my disk set at 1000 RPM's as easily as when I'm at 2600 RPM's.. my experience is.. that is not the case.. the disk set won't budge at 1000 RPM's.

It an easy thing to try(if you have TC35D).. try it at 1000 RPM's.. then bring your machine up to the rated 2600 RPM level.. I believe if you don't see the difference.. your relief valves are set too low or not functioning properly.
 
   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #26  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( If I am at full throttle, the cyl just moves faster... etc... no pressure difference.)</font>

Since my tractor is hydrostatic.. your saying I should be able to pull my disk set at 1000 RPM's as easily as when I'm at 2600 RPM's.. my experience is.. that is not the case.. the disk set won't budge at 1000 RPM's.

It an easy thing to try(if you have TC35D).. try it at 1000 RPM's.. then bring your machine up to the rated 2600 RPM level.. I believe if you don't see the difference.. your relief valves are set too low or not functioning properly.
 
   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #27  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Since my tractor is hydrostatic.. your saying I should be able to pull my disk set at 1000 RPM's as easily as when I'm at 2600 RPM's.. my experience is.. that is not the case.. the disk set won't budge at 1000 RPM's.

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You are introducing more variables than my comment refered to. I was refering only to a hyd pump output in a closed circuit. In a closed circuit, and a positive displacement pump, max pressure will be achieved no mater how fast or slow the pump is turning.. it's not a flow issue.. etc.

Now.. the hydrostat tranny is not the same as a hyd pump and hyd cylinder application.

Also.. your reference to 'easier' is subjective. I do believe that your tractor, if running at hi idle.. say the 1000 rpm,in th elowest range, and if you don't stomp the speed pedal down all the way, but rather just barely step on it.. i do believe that the tractor will crawl forward.... If you stomp It.. i think it would try to stall.

I don't own a hydrostat, but have driven them, and believe that is the relationship between the throttle and the speed control.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I believe if you don't see the difference.. your relief valves are set too low or not functioning properly.

)</font>

Try what I sugested.. set rpm to 1000, and then select lowest range, then just nudge the treadle down just enough to get forward movement.. I believe it will move... if not.. that would be reason number 87 why I wouldn't own a hst tractor. At idle, the pump should develop max pressure that the system is capable of,, flow rate is another story entirely.. I'm not saying ti will move as fast as at 2600.. but only that it will move. ( out of curiosity sake.. post back your results.. )

Soundguy
 
   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #28  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Since my tractor is hydrostatic.. your saying I should be able to pull my disk set at 1000 RPM's as easily as when I'm at 2600 RPM's.. my experience is.. that is not the case.. the disk set won't budge at 1000 RPM's.

)</font>

You are introducing more variables than my comment refered to. I was refering only to a hyd pump output in a closed circuit. In a closed circuit, and a positive displacement pump, max pressure will be achieved no mater how fast or slow the pump is turning.. it's not a flow issue.. etc.

Now.. the hydrostat tranny is not the same as a hyd pump and hyd cylinder application.

Also.. your reference to 'easier' is subjective. I do believe that your tractor, if running at hi idle.. say the 1000 rpm,in th elowest range, and if you don't stomp the speed pedal down all the way, but rather just barely step on it.. i do believe that the tractor will crawl forward.... If you stomp It.. i think it would try to stall.

I don't own a hydrostat, but have driven them, and believe that is the relationship between the throttle and the speed control.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I believe if you don't see the difference.. your relief valves are set too low or not functioning properly.

)</font>

Try what I sugested.. set rpm to 1000, and then select lowest range, then just nudge the treadle down just enough to get forward movement.. I believe it will move... if not.. that would be reason number 87 why I wouldn't own a hst tractor. At idle, the pump should develop max pressure that the system is capable of,, flow rate is another story entirely.. I'm not saying ti will move as fast as at 2600.. but only that it will move. ( out of curiosity sake.. post back your results.. )

Soundguy
 
   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #29  
"I'm not saying ti will move as fast as at 2600.. but only that it will move. ( out of curiosity sake.. post back your results.. )
"

What's funny SoundGuy is that I'm just trying to relate the 2200+ hours of experience I've had on mine.. and I know for a fact it won't budge.(Just so you have the specifics.. the field is plowed.. and we are using a weighted pull disk setup).

I suggest you run the test yourself because you obviously won't accept my first hand experience. But feel free to keep guessing.. and arguing about it.
 
   / TC35DA Hydraulic Power #30  
"I'm not saying ti will move as fast as at 2600.. but only that it will move. ( out of curiosity sake.. post back your results.. )
"

What's funny SoundGuy is that I'm just trying to relate the 2200+ hours of experience I've had on mine.. and I know for a fact it won't budge.(Just so you have the specifics.. the field is plowed.. and we are using a weighted pull disk setup).

I suggest you run the test yourself because you obviously won't accept my first hand experience. But feel free to keep guessing.. and arguing about it.
 

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