TC45D Gutless Wonder

b8200hst4wd · Jul 20, 2001

Well I had to pull a New Holland Skid Steer /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif out of a pole barn which we were laying sand for concrate and the NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif had a dead battery so I said Pull it with my B8200 /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif Kubota /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif Tires broke loose in Mediam. but got it out. Remember this is and 4000 lbs. thing in sand move by and 2000 LBS. KUBOTA /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif 2X it wight

Alex (B8200/HST/4WD/FEL/MidM/TillerEdited by b8200hst4wd on 07/20/01 07:31 PM (server time).

jdkid · Jul 20, 2001

Hi ya Bird
yep the big toys brake too but maybe longer time frame for things to show up and also some things not being worked all the time take FEL on big gear (say mine i'd do 200 hours with loader per year )kinda like the old farmer advice to his son "Boy if it's got t!t's or tires ya have nothing but probs"
catch ya
JD Kid

JATO_RaT · Jul 20, 2001

JD Kid, kinda like "theres no such thing as free t!ts (or other parts)" Rat...

kerr · Jul 21, 2001

Maybe ya need ta take a closer look at them orange threads fella.For a guy who dont know a torquewrench from a toothbrush you sure seam ta know all about them john deeres.I dont think so.God bless ya!

glennmac · Jul 21, 2001

Kerr, as you know, I have complimented JD's designs in other threads. However, it is well-known that JD has had significant quality problems with the 4000 series. As evidence, the complaints registered by JD owners on this forum and CTB far outnumber the complaints from Kubota and New Holland owners combined. It seems that Deere has resolved many or most of the problems, but I think it is widely felt that Deere did not properly test this series before bringing it to market.

We all know and dont know different things. That's why we are here.

jinman · Jul 21, 2001

Troy, I think NH and the other guys have really done their market research well. While you and I may wish for more power and "oomph" to the ground, I am thoroughly pleased with the fact that I can load my tractor on a 7,000 GVW trailer and pull it behind my 3/4 ton pickup. Now, if this thing had enough weight/traction to get all the power to the ground in all cases, it just might be a small dozer and then I would scream about it's being soooo slow. So, I'm with you on this, but I just don't know how to ask NH or the others to market what you and I need/want. They are gonna' make what they can sell the most. I don't know if I could afford the tractor I want anyhow. For now I guess I'll just settle for the best I can get. I truly think we have it. Next year? Hey, you just never know..../w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

JimI

Anonymous Poster · Jul 23, 2001

Hi all
I've been lurking here for a couple of years and can not tell you how informative you've all been!
I know, every new user says the same thing!!
It is unfortunate to own a piece of equipment, new or otherwise, only to have something break.
This however is a fact as "the kid" pointed out.
We have to remember, though, what it was like when these mechanical marvels did not exist or before we owned one.....
If you've forgotten, then get off your tractor and grab a shovel or scythe to use for 5 minutes or so!
Equipment manufacturers should listen to us or their dealers and make necessary changes or improvements to their product lines.
How do we feel when we have layed out 20-50+k for a dream machine, put 50 hours on it and have to have some sort of sevice call and down time?
ya, it stinks.
But the jist of what I wanted to say is to re-iterate what an employer of 25+ years ago told me as I was about to learn how to use my first piece of equipment.
He said, "Boy, you can decide right now whether or not you want to be an equipment DRIVER or BECOME an equipment OPERATOR".
In short, if you are a driver... it WILL break and if your an operator then it Might break less!
I'll tell you right now that operating a Timberjack skidder with a Detroit Allison 353 twitching a full pull of Rock Maple you can bust something quick if you don't have a feel for what your doing. Any machine can be made to pull itself apart.
Any machine can sometimes break for an unforseen reason.
Now to come clean.......
I haven't ever owned my own equipment, small or large, just spent years on ones owned by others.
The reason I lurk here is to live your experiences and learn your wisdom.
I do have the free use of a friends Ford 1910/ backhoe which is at my house for weeks at a time and I ALWAYS find a way to create a new project for it!!
Scares my wife to bits whenever I get that look of creativity on my face.
Thanks guys
mark.

5030 · Sep 28, 2003

RaT:

"Big or small, I've broken them all".

You know what I do with my 5030, anyone who follows this site does. I also use larger tractors, JD's in particular. They break too. A larger tractor will get the job done faster but with less finesse'.

I can use a larger tractor for haying, but ground compaction and plant damage play an important part in total yields on sandy loam. The lighter the prime mover is, the less damage to the crop there is.

Any tractor will break if pushed beyond it's design limits repeatedly. Your Kubota and mine included. One thing I have had some experience with is the price of replacement parts for both brands and Kubota parts seem to be a little less on the whole as compared to John Deere.

By the way, you have an LA853 loader, same as me.

I looked at NH as I use NH forage implements. I consider NH forage implements to be about the best available, especially their round and square bailers. NH prime movers don't excite me or fit in my scheme of what I need in a tractor. I don't care for a slope hood. I use the hood to run straight through the field when raking and NH having no cab on their TC45D was a sure no sale for me.

kensfarm · Sep 29, 2003

One thing I would like to suggest & ask is how you are using the hydrostatic pedals.. you get less torque when the peddle is fully depressed.. but more speed.. you get more torque when the peddle is slightly pressed.. but less speed. Are you in 4 wheel drive lock when doing loader work.. make sure you're in low.. low? How much are you weighted down.. on my TC35D.. foamed filled fronts.. loaded rears w/ dual wheel weights.. and even then.. I'll sometimes throw on a 3pt attachment. Try playing around w/ it some more.. the hydrostatic is a different beast than a gear drive.. good luck!

have_blue · Oct 6, 2003

( To me a real compact tractor would also include some of these qualities that my TC does not have: heavily-built, well designed machine able to perform all fuctions allowed by the options you selected on your machine. The limiting factor should be the engine. )

Waitaminute dieselpwr! You don't want a sissy tractor, then you complain about the hydro! I like STEEL to turn my wheels, not oil and stuff. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif My little TC29 used to pull 6-7" trees out by the roots. The chain got so tight it scared me, and I would get off and stand aside 30 feet and watch it grunt. My TC29 doi everything right, was rock solid, and a real little pit bull. My guess is you aren't used to hydros. I'll never get used to them, because I just ordered a TC35 geared. Good luck!