TC45D PTO problems

[h10doc]

The Pto will not shut off when i move the leaver back. It will not make the switch to allow the engine to start. it is very hard to move in either direction. Has any one else had this problem are know were to start? Thanks

 

[jinman]

First, you have to isolate where the problem is. Are the two other levers on the left side also stiff? If so, you need to lube the common pivot point shaft with some light oil lube like WD-40 or PB Blaster.

If you look from behind the left-rear wheel, you can see the connecting rods for the PTO valve and watch them move (another person to move the lever is needed). Just above the rear transmission, you should see the PTO switch and the "finger" that engages the switch to verify it is operating.

Are you sure fuse #2 is not blown? If fuse #2 is blown, the PTO light will stay on and the tractor will not start.

Finally, I've recently heard of one other person having a stiff PTO valve. To get to it, you have to remove the seat to gain access to the valve.

So, there are four things to check:

1. Is the PTO lever binding on the pivot?
2. Is the PTO switch jammed or working properly?
3. Is fuse #2 blown?
4. Is the PTO valve input shaft binding and not operating properly.

Answer all those questions and I think you'll find your problem.

 

[h10doc]

Thanks for the help Jinman i found the PTO value stif and not moving all the way. But the problem is now a loud clucking noise from the gear box and the pto will not shut off.

 

[jinman]

Ken, I had forgotten all the problems you had with your PTO back in 2007. I did a search of posts under your user name and found that post where you had your PTO clutch/brake replaced by your dealer. It sure seems to be the same or similar problem again, although it could be a combination of things. Gosh! You've had a lot of problems in this area. I don't know what to tell you, but the noise you describe sounds like the clutch pack has again gone south and the brake engaging "ears" are slipping, making the clicking sound. It does seem that this would not effect your engagement lever and hydraulic valve in any way. You should surely be able to disengage that valve and get rid of the PTO ON lamp on the dash. You must feel like you're in the middle of a PTO nightmare. You have my sympathies, but I think it's time to open things up again.

In the full time I have had my tractor, with engaging and disengaging, I have never heard anything remotely sounding like a clicking sound. When my PTO is disengaged, it comes to a complete halt, smoothly, within a few seconds even with the rotary cutter attached. What you are experiencing is NOT normal and indicates someting seriously wrong.

 

[h10doc]

JinMan thanks for the help I found the problem to be the PTO clutch pack and the brake disk. I Just left the NH dealer and it seams there was a up grade to the brake from a 1 mm disk to a new improved 4 mm disk that i did not get the upgrade in 07. The brack disk broke apart and jamed the clutch pack causing the PTO to stay engaged. I'll get some picks and post them. Thanks again for the help Ken

 

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[/IMG]Got her back together and she works fine now here's some pics and the special tool I had to fab to compress the cluch spring

 

[jinman]

Wow! I'd say you're the PTO expert on TBN now. Nice job!

 

[JC-jetro]

Got her back together and she works fine now here's some pics and the special tool I had to fab to compress the cluch spring

Excellent work How did you use your fabricated tool to compress the clutch pack spring?
Did you use a big c clamp, vise or hydraulic press?

JC,