TC45DA Ignition Switch

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Jackfr

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NH WorkMaster 33 Ford F5000 NH T 4.90 Ford 2110 JD555B
Anyone know of an update/upgrade for the plastic ignition switch in the TD45DA? I will be ordering my third one in 2450 hrs tomorro.
 
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Well here I am at 2760 hrs and that $86 plastic ignition switch is starting to act up again. This will be the forth one. I've purchased a metal/brass after market one from NAPA and am going to try and adapt it. I'll let you know how I make out.
 
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Wow! That is just too bizarre.:confused2: You've replaced four switches and I still have my original on my tractor (built in 2000) that has lived outside its whole life (1700 hours). Your tractor has many more hours, but your environment must be the difference if your tractor isn't stored indoors or under shelter. Hours of operation shouldn't have anything to do with switch life. It's a total lifetime issue. I agree; that's excessive. I'd be doing exactly as you are doing if I were in your shoes.
 
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It's a 2003 and is garaged inside with other tractors but it it is started sometimes 2 or more times daily Its been a good tractor over all as it is used more than the other three. Got the switch now need to make the time before it forces me to make the time to change it
 
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It's a 2003 and is garaged inside with other tractors but it it is started sometimes 2 or more times daily Its been a good tractor over all as it is used more than the other three. Got the switch now need to make the time before it forces me to make the time to change it

"Started sometimes 2 or more times daily"? We've got a TC45 that is used to muck stalls in a barn that is probably started 10-20 times per day, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. Been doing that for years. Never had to replace a single switch. (knock on wood)

I would guess that something more than the switch is wrong (tractor wiring?). Four switches???? I'd be tempted to take one apart to see what failed on it.
 
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Update on Ignition Switch

The switch finally got bad enough to need to change it. It was causing the starter solenoid to just click or not work at all and the tractor would not stay running unless you got the key just right. I did not like the idea of cutting the harness but was tired of replacing swithces because of broken tumblers or melted parts in the NH plastic switch. So I purchased a NAPA KS6180 ($23) Ignition switch and then crimped, soldered, shrank wrapped and taped all splices and connections. See attached pictures.

I spliced a red #10 wire to the two NH red #14(NH connecter # B & D) and connected it to the Battery terminal on the new Switch(the 2 NH Red # 14 run back to a common positive battery splice per the wiring diagram). I spliced a White #10(I didn't have an Orange) to the NH #10 orange (NH Connector C) to the Ignition Terminal on the new switch and finally I spliced a white # 14 to the NH white #18 (NH connector #A) to the starter terminal on the new switch.

The tractor is running fine now hopefully with no other ignition switch problems. Terminal C was melted this time on the NH plastic switch along with a real loose tumblers(key would jamb), last time I think it was one of the two battery terminals #B I think don't remember for sure. The terminal looks real small for a #10 wire which probably caused it to heat up. Since the last switch was installed last May very little assessory usage was going on as we haven't needed lights or the heater during the summer months. The switch might be the cause of the problems others are having with electrical no start/hard start problems.

jml755: I was being conservative when I said "Started sometimes 2 or more times daily" the tractor is used daily in the day to day operation of taking care of 25 +/- horses and 47 +/- acres, to spread manure, mow, building and maintaining trails and jumps, snow removal etc. It is used more than the other three Fords (F6640, F5000, and F2110) we own. Sometimes it could be started as many as 20 to 30 times daily.
 

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Jack, that looks like a viable repair. Is yours a cabbed tractor? I don't think I've ever seen a Heater control on the dash panel. Let us know how that NAPA switch works out in the long run. Knock on wood, my 2000 model TC45D's switch is still working fine.
 
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Jim

Yes we added an after market Steel Curtis cab with soft doors to it with heater and wipers. Makes it a lot nicer during the winter months here.

Jack
 
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Update on Ignition Switch

The switch finally got bad enough to need to change it. It was causing the starter solenoid to just click or not work at all and the tractor would not stay running unless you got the key just right. I did not like the idea of cutting the harness but was tired of replacing swithces because of broken tumblers or melted parts in the NH plastic switch. So I purchased a NAPA KS6180 ($23) Ignition switch and then crimped, soldered, shrank wrapped and taped all splices and connections. See attached pictures.

I spliced a red #10 wire to the two NH red #14(NH connecter # B & D) and connected it to the Battery terminal on the new Switch(the 2 NH Red # 14 run back to a common positive battery splice per the wiring diagram). I spliced a White #10(I didn't have an Orange) to the NH #10 orange (NH Connector C) to the Ignition Terminal on the new switch and finally I spliced a white # 14 to the NH white #18 (NH connector #A) to the starter terminal on the new switch.

The tractor is running fine now hopefully with no other ignition switch problems. Terminal C was melted this time on the NH plastic switch along with a real loose tumblers(key would jamb), last time I think it was one of the two battery terminals #B I think don't remember for sure. The terminal looks real small for a #10 wire which probably caused it to heat up. Since the last switch was installed last May very little assessory usage was going on as we haven't needed lights or the heater during the summer months. The switch might be the cause of the problems others are having with electrical no start/hard start problems.

jml755: I was being conservative when I said "Started sometimes 2 or more times daily" the tractor is used daily in the day to day operation of taking care of 25 +/- horses and 47 +/- acres, to spread manure, mow, building and maintaining trails and jumps, snow removal etc. It is used more than the other three Fords (F6640, F5000, and F2110) we own. Sometimes it could be started as many as 20 to 30 times daily.

Jack,
Thanks for your post & details. The switch on my TC40DA dies & I followed your process with perfect results.

Twin
 
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I had the same problem with my 03 TC40D I think my switch melted at around 1000Hrs. I replaced mine with a Napa heavy duty switch as well, not one problem since and I now have around 1600Hrs. I think it your right about the starting issues being related to the switch, before I realized it was the switch I thought I might have starter problems, fuel solenoid problems or who knows. It was so erratic I couldn't track the problem because it kept changing. I think the switch might have issues with a lot of night time use ie. lights. My tractor got a lot of after work and late in the evening on weekends use for a while and lights are really the only thing that should draw enough continuous power to cause the switch to melt. You might have had such high failure rate because the wiring connections probably overheated the first time and then you didn't have great electrical flow after which caused more heat with less demand.:confused2:
 

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