Terragrinder

[1930]

I understand that chances are slim no one here has any experience with this HowToDrillAWell.com is now DrillAWell.com but I figured I would ask.

Ive hand dug down 27 feet on my property in central Florida only to find damp sand.

Ive tried in a couple of different places at the same depth. I sorta had a feeling I would come across that.

Im considering very strongly the kit these people sell, Im not interested in paying someone to do a job I can do myself.

Any helpful comments appreciated. Thanks

 

[fruitcakesa]

I have not heard of or used one but if you have sand, I suppose it is worth a shot.
Here in Vermont we have more rock than dirt so I had a local well driller do mine years ago. 205 ft with 5 gpm.

 

[oosik]

I have not seen nor heard of THIS particular brand. However - it was common practice for homesteaders to "hydradrill - hydrajet" their own wells in AK. It was a high pressure water jetting system. This was done because many homesteads were WAY beyond being just remote.

They worked pretty well because the overburden was usually clay or silt or a mix. They would go down 25 to 50 feet. This would put the bottom of the well right on top of the glacial material - glacial outwash. If they were fortunate there was water there. Properly done it would also exclude the water from any permafrost ponds or soils - bog water.

 

[Firemanbuck]

I understand that chances are slim no one here has any experience with this HowToDrillAWell.com is now DrillAWell.com but I figured I would ask.

Ive hand dug down 27 feet on my property in central Florida only to find damp sand.

Ive tried in a couple of different places at the same depth. I sorta had a feeling I would come across that.

Im considering very strongly the kit these people sell, Im not interested in paying someone to do a job I can do myself.

Any helpful comments appreciated. Thanks

You cannot legally drill a well on your property without a permit from the State.
There are construction standards for water wells that include surface sealing, casing requirements, etc.
I would suggest you avail yourself of the information about both before beginning your project.

 

[CobyRupert]

You cannot legally drill a well on your property without a permit from the State.
There are construction standards for water wells that include surface sealing, casing requirements, etc.
I would suggest you avail yourself of the information about both before beginning your project.

"You cannot legally drill a well on the property without a permit from the State....." - Fixed it for you.

 

[Firemanbuck]

"You cannot legally drill a well on the property without a permit from the State....." - Fixed it for you.

Not sure what you are trying to say...
How about "....not legally drill a well in Florida...."?

 

[MossRoad]

You cannot legally drill a well on your property without a permit from the State.
There are construction standards for water wells that include surface sealing, casing requirements, etc.
I would suggest you avail yourself of the information about both before beginning your project.

Apparently that's not true in Florida. It appears to be covered by many water management districts, and they, not the state, are the ones that issue permits if they are required. There's several articles that talk about some districts requiring permits. Some don't. Some exempt homeowners from 2" and under wells. Some don't. Some require a permit. Some don't. Some require just a report, not a permit. Some don't. It all depends on where you live in that state, or probably any state for that matter, as to if a permit is required or not, and which agency has the authority over ground water.

 

[Diggin It]

So .... nobody's gonna comment on digging a hole 27 feet deep .... by hand .... in sand ...?

 

[1930]

Apparently that's not true in Florida. It appears to be covered by many water management districts, and they, not the state, are the ones that issue permits if they are required. There's several articles that talk about some districts requiring permits. Some don't. Some exempt homeowners from 2" and under wells. Some don't. Some require a permit. Some don't. Some require just a report, not a permit. Some don't. It all depends on where you live in that state, or probably any state for that matter, as to if a permit is required or not, and which agency has the authority over ground water.

This!

 

[1930]

So .... nobody's gonna comment on digging a hole 27 feet deep .... by hand .... in sand ...?

Not a hole but 2 of them

 

[3Ts]

So .... nobody's gonna comment on digging a hole 27 feet deep .... by hand .... in sand ...?

Nope! I wouldn't touch this one.

 

[CobyRupert]

Not sure what you are trying to say...
How about "....not legally drill a well in Florida...."?

Yes, that’s better.
You implied it was his land...
...you know, where if it was he could put a hole In the ground without somebody else’s permission.

 

[1930]

I can give more details if wanted but the product I gave a link too in initial post is not gonna work for me. The product is misrepresented. Maybe it works but the additional add ons needed not mentioned in the initial sales pitch put the gamble out of my comfort zone

 

[fried1765]

I can give more details if wanted but the product I gave a link too in initial post is not gonna work for me. The product is misrepresented. Maybe it works but the additional add ons needed not mentioned in the initial sales pitch put the gamble out of my comfort zone

I have a 41' well (in sand) that I did by myself.
I dug a 10' deep pit, and built concrete block sidewalls (about 7' square).
Then I used a 6" dia. hand posthole auger, using extensions, to go down another 20'
Then I used a piece of 2" schedule 40 pipe, with an piece of 1-1/4" steel pipe temporarily inside to support a 100 lb driving weight.
The 1-1/4" pipe was used to drive on the inside bottom of a 3' - 8 slot stainless steel well point, and then removed.

The depth from ground surface to the bottom of the point is 41'
That well has been providing me with water since 1965.

 

[Jstpssng]

Are you familiar with well points? How to Drill a Driven Point Well | Home Guides | SF Gate You might be beyond their working limits, but they can do what you are looking for, as long as you are good with a sledge hammer. You might also be able to use one to extend your existing hole.

 

[5030]

So .... nobody's gonna comment on digging a hole 27 feet deep .... by hand .... in sand ...?

I was but just thinking about a 27 foot deep hand dug hole makes my back ache....

 

[dieselscout80]

My Dad and I used well points to drive several wells in the 20’ to 30’ deep range back home in Montana.

He had access to a driver (two man) that was like a steel fence post driver, but it would drive 3” to 4” pipe. That said it was very hard work.

Once my Dad rigged up a scaffold and used a pulley and cable with a bare rim on the truck. He would wrap the cable around the wheel a few times and with the truck jacked up and idling in first gear then he would snub the cable and the driver would be raised up and then he would let go and the driver would slam down.

 

[1930]

My Dad and I used well points to drive several wells in the 20’ to 30’ deep range back home in Montana.

He had access to a driver (two man) that was like a steel fence post driver, but it would drive 3” to 4” pipe. That said it was very hard work.

Once my Dad rigged up a scaffold and used a pulley and cable with a bare rim on the truck. He would wrap the cable around the wheel a few times and with the truck jacked up and idling in first gear then he would snub the cable and the driver would be raised up and then he would let go and the driver would slam down.

Ive heard of this several times, I know that my now deceased neighbor used this method to drive a well in his backyard.

I just cant quite picture it and would be more interested in more specific details of how this works exactly, do you know of a place online where I can get some specific instruction?

 

[Diggin It]

I was but just thinking about a 27 foot deep hand dug hole makes my back ache....

27 INCHES and mine is screamin' No Mas!!!!

 

[hugeamusing]

So .... nobody's gonna comment on digging a hole 27 feet deep .... by hand .... in sand ...? penalty kick online

You should consider the depth if digging by hand....