Test challenge, face off & bet - Anyone game?

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   / Test challenge, face off & bet - Anyone game? #11  
I AM DEFINITELY IN!!!!!!!!!
U GIT THE TRACTORS !!!!!
BRING EM HERE AND TILL 8" DEEP ANYWHERE IN MY BACK YARD U WANT 50' X30'
ANYWHERE U WANT...!!!!!!!!!!
TILLIN GOES FIRST!!!!

IF NOT ABLE TO B DONE !!!!!!



IT'S DOUBLE OR NUTHIN!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Test challenge, face off & bet - Anyone game? #12  
I have 7.5 acres with a 600 ft drive in need of some gravel, about an acre in 4 foot tall prairie grass, an acre of lawn that needs mowing and the rest has grown to about a foot.

You can dig just about anywhere you want, just east of Tulsa, pretty close to the center of this great country. Bring em on and have a ball /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
   / Test challenge, face off & bet - Anyone game?
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BobReeves:

Sounds good to me. Now, if I can just find someone to take me up on it. Hopefully, we can get one of the moderators to hold the stakes. Agree on the test items and we're on our way. Frankly, I think it's a sucker bet, but, who knows. I could loose. Thanks for the offer to host it.

JEH
 
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SteveM:

<font color="blue">This is an unfair competition. </font>

It’s unfair? Sears sells the GT5000 as a garden tractor. It advertises all the wonderful implements you can get with it, including, and I quote from their literature, “ground engaging” implements. They try to sell it as a multipurpose tractor. It’s a con to convince people they’re getting something they’re not. In another thread in this forum, DanielNY asked for advice about buying a “garden tractor”. Different posters recommended this or that “garden tractor”. All bull. If people had said to DanielNY “well, Daniel, you’re really not getting a garden tractor, you’re actually getting a lawn mower that will do couple of other things, sort of” we wouldn’t be having this conversation and I never would have started this thread or made the bet.

I don’t doubt that a GT5000 is a decent enough riding lawn mower, at a reasonable price – in fact, when I studied one yesterday, prior to starting this thread and posting my bet, I thought it was better assembled, had better fit and finish, smoothly working controls, etc. than I had expected. But even just limited to mowing, I guess you didn’t realize that the 2 wheelers have riding sulkies. You don’t have to mow acres and acres walking. In fact, if I were going to mow that much ground, I would use my TC40. It took me 15-20 seconds to hook, or detach, the sulky on my Gravely. But, in addition to open, flat mowing while riding, the Gravely would easily mow under overhanging branches and bushes. With the sulky off, it would mow 30+ degree slopes. Try that with your GT5000.

Regarding cost, you are certainly correct. A BCS 850 with mowing deck will run quite a bit more than the GT5000 with mowing deck. However, it will last a lifetime, the warranty on the gearing and transaxle has no time limit. What’s the life expectancy of a GT5000? Also, the GT5000 weighs more and has more HP. So, maybe its <font color="blue">unfair</font> for the BCS! But, again, my quarrel is with misrepresenting something like the Craftsman GT5000 as a “garden tractor” not the relative quality of the two.

Regarding some of your other comments, I included pulling weight in my suggested list of test items. Of course, if all you want is a tractor pull, it’s real easy to add duals (or triples for that matter)-or, better yet, the BCS has factory, steel tracks (like a dozer), let’s bolt those on, and, while we’re at it, pull 4 bolts and in a few minutes we can swap out the gas engine for a diesel. We hook up your GT5000 against the BCS and see which one can pull the other. As far as “one armed” (or one legged for that matter) people are concerned, I watched Harrison Ford in the Fugitive a few nights ago-so I don’t need any of those.

In your post, you admit, in effect, that equipment like the GT5000 is really not an all-purpose garden tractor. That, of course, is my point. If anyone thinks it is, let them take me up on my bet and we’ll go see how well a lawn mower can do against an all purpose garden tractor (a real one, that it).

JEH
 
   / Test challenge, face off & bet - Anyone game? #15  
Well I have a GT5000 and I'm pretty close to you. But the test sounds a little silly. I got it to mow grass and it mows about 3 acres of hilly rough Ozarks land. And it does it pulling a 5" trail mower offset behind it so I can cut a 9' swath.

For all those other tasks like tilling, grading the drive and snow removal I have a Yanmar 1500D.
 

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   / Test challenge, face off & bet - Anyone game? #16  
So....

It would indeed appear that there ARE reasons, other than those listed by Libertine, for the GT5000's popularity.

I really like my Craftsman mower, and wouldn't own a two wheel tractor if you gave me one (yes, my older brother once tried), but I prefer to ride on my machines rather than follow along behind them on foot.

YMMV... and most likely does.
 
   / Test challenge, face off & bet - Anyone game? #17  
JEH,

I don't doubt for a second that the BCS type tractor is superior than the Sears GT5000 for multi-purpose use.

BUT I also know that I bought a "garden tractor" and never used it for anything other than cutting grass...and I really think that is what 99% of people who buy Sears tractors (or MTD, or whatever) do with them.

So I am wondering...if the contest was reduced to simply which would cut the grass best and fastest...which would win?

My gut says the Sears unit would (I really hate to call them tractors) but I don't really have any experience with the 2-wheel variety.

Not to sidetrack the challenge...but just for grass cutting...what do you think? I would guess the steeper the slope, the greater the advantage the BSC would have...
 
   / Test challenge, face off & bet - Anyone game? #18  
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SteveM:

<font color="blue">The 4 wheel equivelent to the BCS is a kubota BX1500. Proportionately more expensive, but just as well built and versitile. </font>

Checked one out (wasn't familiar with it). Indeed, nice small "real" tractor. However, you were questioning the price difference re: GT5000 & BCS. With a mower deck, the BX1500 must be 2 1/2 - 3 times the BCS (I'm guessing around $7k-$8k). In addtion, it's 3+ times the weight. Although the BCS could probably "keep up" in most things, I doubt it could "win". For $8k you can get a BCS 850 with lots of stuff, in addition to mower deck - tiller, chipper/shredder, snow blower, rotary plow, riding sulky, 1/2 ton dump/riding cart, dozer/grader blade, etc. So, comparing the BCS with a BX1500 is really <font color="blue">unfair</font> don't you think? For the small property, the BCS approaches the same "work" capacity, at least equal quality at a substantially lower initial price and much lower long term operating and repair costs. For the price of a basic BX1500, the BCS can be had with most of the implements/equipment needed for a smaller property. I simply point this out as it is an option, often not considered, for the small property owner. Hopefully, when offering suggestions to posters seeking "advice" on tractors some TBNers will think of this type machinery as an option for certain conditions.

JEH
 
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Ozarker:

Are you offering your GT5000 in the competition? You said you use it for mowing & use your "real" tractor for the other stuff. That was my whole point of starting this. The GT5000 is really a lawn mower, but it is sold by Sears, and promoted by some TBNers as a "garden tractor". A tractor is a multipurpose utility tool for doing the kind of stuff on a property as in my list of "tests." My point is that the BCS 2 wheeler is a "real" tractor that can do all these types of things, is very well made and is an option for people needing a "real" tractor for a small property.

JEH
 
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