The Big Flip

[TTTTTT]

Hi All,

Thanks for all the good wishes. I just thought it was too valuable an experience not to share. Hopefully we will all respect these machines more. Luckily I don't have too big an ego and not too embarrassed to share.

'The Big Start' was more fun and a good ending

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/chinese-tractors/145120-df354-starting-after-big-flip.html

I am in the process of getting some wheel weights or may load the tires to get some rear ballast as well as widening my stance

New Stance



Dave

 

[vic4news]

Why no Ballast on the 3 point hitch? Can't I keep it low to the ground?

Keeping the load low is just one of things that you should do.

The OP listed the following as things he knew contributed to the tip over:

"Was moving a heavy rock, loader a little high, angle a little steep, too high centre of gravity."

Having the proper ballast on the three point hitch will also reduce the chance of tipping. Typically, you want to keep about 65% of the weight at the rear of the tractor.

Vic

 

[JohnDeere4300]

Glad your OK....and your tractor.

Can you switch your rear tires around to get more width???

I need to show this to my Father-in-law.....he thinks i can lift something heavy & have my FEL high, but i tell him that it will flip on a side of a bank.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[TTTTTT]

Glad your OK....and your tractor.

Can you switch your rear tires around to get more width???

I need to show this to my Father-in-law.....he thinks i can lift something heavy & have my FEL high, but i tell him that it will flip on a side of a bank.

Thanks for sharing.

I was going to move the rear out to its max., but I may have trouble getting it on my trailer, so I moved it as far out as possible. I did not flip them around although I probably may get another 4"-6" wider stance if I do. I still may do this down the road.

The Rears
Before

After Note: It may look as if the right wheel is not the same distance out as the left. I had to take a second look until I realized when I flipped the tractor, the right fender bracket got bent in, so the wheel appears to be further out by about an inch.


Dave

 

[LBrown59]

I need to show this to my Father-in-law.....he thinks i can lift something heavy & have my FEL high .

Where did he get this idea?

 

[JohnDeere4300]

I was going to move the rear out to its max., but I may have trouble getting it on my trailer, so I moved it as far out as possible. I did not flip them around although I probably may get another 4"-6" wider stance if I do. I still may do this down the road.

The Rears
Before

After Note: It may look as if the right wheel is not the same distance out as the left. I had to take a second look until I realized when I flipped the tractor, the right fender bracket got bent in, so the wheel appears to be further out by about an inch.


Dave

Yea that should help some.

I owned my tractor for 7 years before i switched my rears, and the reason was because my dealer told me that it WOULD NOT make a difference.....and i post the question on here & was told that it would give me some width.

I switched them and it has helped a lot.

You was very lucky.....and glad your OK

 

[JohnDeere4300]

Where did he get this idea?

LB,

He knows everything

 

[Johndeere3720]

Ive never seen a green Jinma tractor. I like it. glad your okay and same for the tractor. The wider stance will help but I still would load the tires. Now to convince my dad to widen the rears on his Deere 3720. Atleast it has wider R4s but its never to late to be safe.

 

[TTTTTT]

Ive never seen a green Jinma tractor. I like it. glad your okay and same for the tractor. The wider stance will help but I still would load the tires. Now to convince my dad to widen the rears on his Deere 3720. Atleast it has wider R4s but its never to late to be safe.

I almost got R4's when I got the tractor, but the AG's were more suited to most of the work I would be doing. The R4's definitely have that natural lower profile and wider stance. Not that they don't look similar but mine is a Dongfeng brand not a Jinma. As a big green owner, I guess you can be excused. Could of got a Catepillar yellow, but the green was nice, and I found an off the shelf matching paint (canopy has the match)

Dave

 

[matt_isserstedt]

My thoughts are that loading the tires doesn't place the tractor's frame under additional stress. For example, if you hook a 55 gal drum filled with concrete to the 3 point, the same net loading on the tractor is accomplished (more or less) but the lift arms, links and lower arms are under a lot more stress. Load the tires and the 3 point can relax and you don't have to wrestle with the counterweight any more.

My loader tractor won't even back up a wet hill completely empty...that's how light it is to start with. I am working on getting this resolved as above.