Comparison The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten

[arie515]

I'm not hearing MTZ in this conversation. Guess right now, it would not be in anyone's interest to buy a Russian Tractor or other product. But, just before the fall of the USSR, Belarus was the go to "Value" tractor. My Dad bought a new one in 1987. It was super inexpensive and built like a tank. He got ribbing from many folks that saw all the CCCP markings. But it worked, and rarely failed, and when it did, it was a simple inexpensive fix.

MTZ / Belarus tractors are still available in USA/Canada www.mtzequipment.com

 

[ovrszd]

I stand corrected on SS

Was in a hurry, "First mistake" yesterday switching from bucket to forks and snapped the levers down when the lower mount on the right side was in the dirt... moved a roll top desk and was going to switch back to the bucket when I went to unlock the right latch notice I had completely missed the lower hole, on top of that the upper angle inverted V that holds the right side of the loaders QA had partially popped out since the lower latch was not locked in when latched.

OOps
In a sense it was my laziness that caused the mis latching, Just glad that I didn't drop the roll top and or damage anything.

I capture the attachment. Raise it off the ground. Bounce it a couple times. Then latch the pins.

 

[sd455dan]

I capture the attachment. Raise it off the ground. Bounce it a couple times. Then latch the pins.

Words to live by.

One thing about mistakes (at least with me) I tend to learn from them, and the lessons seem to stick.
Will be switching to pallet forks soon to unload a new 18 x 30 Versa tube car port, you can bet I will double check my pin and upper ^ engagement when mounting the forks and before unloading the flat bed.

 

[Handloader109]

Says a lot more about the dealership than the manufacturer.

They are the same. Especially with a tractor. You are buying the manufacturers representative. It's why I didn't buy a Kubota. The POS dealer hear has 90% of the small tractor market and knows it.

 

[IndyJay]

They are the same. Especially with a tractor. You are buying the manufacturers representative. It's why I didn't buy a Kubota. The POS dealer hear has 90% of the small tractor market and knows it.

My local Kubota dealer prices everything ~20% higher than others in the region. I wound up buying my 84" Rotary cutter from an out of state Kubota dealer because of the $1,000 price difference. That was after I went to a neighboring state to buy my Kioti. He was way out of line on the L4701 that I had been looking at.

 

[Handloader109]

Oh, and I guess you JD fanboys missed that Waterloo is going to Mexico in the next year or two....

 

[eagle628]

Oh, and I guess you JD fanboys missed that Waterloo is going to Mexico in the next year or two....

Well that's misleading, they're only moving cab production, not closing the whole complex.

 

[Hay Dude]

They are the same. Especially with a tractor. You are buying the manufacturers representative. It's why I didn't buy a Kubota. The POS dealer hear has 90% of the small tractor market and knows it.

Disagree. Manufacturers sell tractor franchises to dealers. They don’t receive direct paychecks from a manufacturer, with the exception of small percentage kickbacks per unit sold. There’s no manufacturers “stores” where tractors are sold and the employees are paid directly by the manufacturer.
A guy working on the showroom floor of blowhard tractor company in sales is paid his salary or commission by the dealer, not the manufacturer.
While he may represent the company, he is a franchisee, not an employee and thats a big difference.
So YES, you are buying from a franchise that sells a product they are licensed to sell. That franchise may be stuck up because they have 90% of the market, or may be a great dealership that earns your business every time you walk in the store.

 

[jyoutz]

My local Kubota dealer prices everything ~20% higher than others in the region. I wound up buying my 84" Rotary cutter from an out of state Kubota dealer because of the $1,000 price difference. That was after I went to a neighboring state to buy my Kioti. He was way out of line on the L4701 that I had been looking at.

That’s interesting. Last year when I bought my 72” LandPride cutter, every Kubota dealer was selling them for the same price, even in adjacent states.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

That’s interesting. Last year when I bought my 72” LandPride cutter, every Kubota dealer was selling them for the same price, even in adjacent states.

I think what's becoming evident through this discussion is different markets play the local market differently.