"The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee?

   / "The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee?
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#11  
Re: 40k Paint job

It's 4 days total ... and the work gets done before trim, casements, baseboards, etc. get installed. The deal also includes up to one day for one guy to come in and repair any damage done to the paint job by the installation of the trim etc. The more I think about this, the crankier I get, and the more it makes me wonder about *what else* in the overall bids might be out of line. Sheesh!
 
   / "The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee? #12  
Re: 40k Paint job

Uh, at 40k I don't blame ya for being cranky. Will the GC allow you to find your own painter?

SHF
 
   / "The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee?
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#13  
Re: 40k Paint job

He hasn't come right out and said "no," but he has made some noises about "using another one of his guys who isn't as expensive but isn't as good, either."

Grrr...
 
   / "The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee? #14  
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Did he give you any idea about what "less expensive" means?

SHF
 
   / "The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee?
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Re: 40k Paint job

No - I think the look on my face when we got to that item might have made him want to move on pretty quickly. I'm now in the strategizing mode (I guess that comes after the outrage mode) and asking myself if I oughtn't just go find some more potential GC's. My trust meter on this guy isn't exactly ringing the bell.
 
   / "The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee? #16  
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I understand. Perhaps he put this line item in there to leave room for negotiation? Otherwise, I think I would be seeking a new GC.

SHF
 
   / "The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee? #17  
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Webbmeister

I read your post with some interest as my wife and I went through somewhat the same thing with our house. From your previous posts it seems that you are a building a timber frame house. The paint bid you have gotten is about double what it should be if all they are doing is painting wallboard. If the price includes finish on all the exposed beams and staining of trim and doors it might get to 15K. When we were doing a lot of construction ,painting costs where about$0.40 per sq ft of wall, current market conditions have probably pushed that up some but I wouldn't think by very much. If you know how many sq ft of drywall or surface area there is you could calculate that yourself. As to the GC fee, if by that, you mean the contractors profit and overhead, it should be about 10-12% of the total project cost (which is what we always used to charge). I would have them break it out for you so you know. If they are adding their general conditions and labor burden into the fee that could raise it substantially but those things are more generally put into the direct costs of construction. I am sure that there are websites out there that have construction cost figures but I haven't searched for any of them. Your local library should have a copy of Walkers construction estimator which gives a range of costs for different trades and then has adjustments for different areas of the country. If you didn't hit it off with your contractor you probably should find a new one, this is too big of an investment to not have a good relationship. Are you getting your timber frame from a manufacturor or is the general doing that. The people that supply the timber frame components can more than likely steer you to a good contractor, especially one who has worked with their product.
The magazine Fine Homebuilding has several ads in it for timber frame products you might check that out. Good luck.
 
   / "The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee?
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Hermit:

Thanks for the detailed and thoughtful reply. You are correct - priming and painting wallboard only.

The GC fee being asked is 20% of the project minus the timberframe. General conditions are listed separately, and the labor is written into the line items. The GC fee is purely the fee for supervising.

I'll pick up a copy of Walkers, and yes, the Timber Frame is a package - this one is by Riverbend.

Thanks again for your insight!

Jim
 
   / "The House" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee? #19  
Re: \"The House\" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee?

Well my 2 cents worth .
if your are having problems this erly in the game and trust is a issue i would think i would look for another GC because once you sign the contract your stuck with all his lies and there isnt much you can do about it.
good luck with your house. and make sure you trust your GC.
 
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Re: \"The House\" $40K paint job? $110K GC fee?

Webbmeister:
Finally got some time to search the webb for construction costs, didn't really look at any of them too closely but out of the 650k of them you should be able to find one (or several) that will help. Lots of cost estimators for sale. If you have a college or university close their bookstore will probably have some detailed estimating guides. 20% ? I need to get back into the business if that is what the going rate is! Another thought, you might be able to get a referall from the local homebuilding association for a GC that is experienced with timberframing. The majority of the work that we used to do was commercial or industrial and what I've seen of timberframing is that it is kind of a specialized craft.
Good luck.
 

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