The Jake Rake

   / The Jake Rake
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   / The Jake Rake #114  
It took time, and i havent stamped the number on the units yet.

Not that I would ever consider copying your product because the business I'm in is not related to yours at all, or this forum, but....

I manufacture a number of unique to me designs and offer them to the public for retail sale, worldwide, I might add. I't basically a hobby that turned into a profitable business venture, something that I should have pursued long ago, but didn't and I applaud you for embarking on your venture at a young age.

I considered patents for my products but my attorney said it's a waste of time and money and I tend to agree.

Patents are only as good as the paper they are written on. In the not too distant past, a patent gave the holder exclusive rights to a design, both in concept and execution or manufacturing. Any entity wishing to manufacture that product or a similar one would have to get authorization and/or pay royalities to the patent holder. Not today.

With the advent of 'World Class Manufacturing' NAFTA and the Chinese/European dominance in the world industrial markets, any Tom, Dick, Harry or Chang can copy your design and market it. Herein is the trick, if you will....

Manufacture and offer your products below what your bootleg competitiors offer theirs at (if there ever is competition) and plainly state that yours is made in USA (if it actually is).

I saved the money of a patent search and application and I operate on the LEAN manufacturing principle. I offer a domestically sourced and manufactured product that's uniqely mine at a price that a competitor can't match and I still make money. Not a killing by any means, but a profit nonetheless.

I get offers everyday from Chi-Com companies wanting to make my designs for me. They all go in the delete folder.

I'm proud to be an American and proud to be able to manufacture a product in this country, from materials sourced in this country, with machine and fabrication tools made in this country.

I certainly hope I'm not a minority in that respect.
 
   / The Jake Rake #115  
Not that I would ever consider copying your product because the business I'm in is not related to yours at all, or this forum, but....

I manufacture a number of unique to me designs and offer them to the public for retail sale, worldwide, I might add. I't basically a hobby that turned into a profitable business venture, something that I should have pursued long ago, but didn't and I applaud you for embarking on your venture at a young age.

I considered patents for my products but my attorney said it's a waste of time and money and I tend to agree.

Patents are only as good as the paper they are written on. In the not too distant past, a patent gave the holder exclusive rights to a design, both in concept and execution or manufacturing. Any entity wishing to manufacture that product or a similar one would have to get authorization and/or pay royalities to the patent holder. Not today.

With the advent of 'World Class Manufacturing' NAFTA and the Chinese/European dominance in the world industrial markets, any Tom, Dick, Harry or Chang can copy your design and market it. Herein is the trick, if you will....

Manufacture and offer your products below what your bootleg competitiors offer theirs at (if there ever is competition) and plainly state that yours is made in USA (if it actually is).

I saved the money of a patent search and application and I operate on the LEAN manufacturing principle. I offer a domestically sourced and manufactured product that's uniqely mine at a price that a competitor can't match and I still make money. Not a killing by any means, but a profit nonetheless.

I get offers everyday from Chi-Com companies wanting to make my designs for me. They all go in the delete folder.

I'm proud to be an American and proud to be able to manufacture a product in this country, from materials sourced in this country, with machine and fabrication tools made in this country.

I certainly hope I'm not a minority in that respect.

I want one...What is it?:laughing:
 
   / The Jake Rake #116  
I want one...What is it?:laughing:

Interestingly, I can't say.

I was away from this site for a number of years (about 5 or so) and came back and added my company name to my signature line. I'm proud I built it from nothing to what it is today so I wanted to add it, not for any monetary gain, but as an accomplishment.

It offended someone who reported it to the forum owner who asked me to remove it, even though my company produces no products that are in any way related to this site or the participants herein.

Then in a post, I casually mentioned one of my products and the same poster who found fault with my signature line also found issue with my post and this time the post was deleted without any notification.

I was able to deduce from both threads who the poster was and PM'd him only to have him deny it.

I've since added him and only him to my ignore list.

I don't build or have any intention of building any farm or ag or tractor related equipment other than doing on site mobile welding, something I've done for years.

To remain as pristine and pure as possible, I make no mention of my business side other than in abstract conversations so as not to upset anyon'es cookie jars.:)
 
   / The Jake Rake
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5030, you have some good points there. I too have great pride in offering an American product to my customers and will continue to offer it that way for many years to come. :thumbsup:
 
   / The Jake Rake #118  
5030, you have some good points there. I too have great pride in offering an American product to my customers and will continue to offer it that way for many years to come. :thumbsup:

Good for you.

I started much later in life but I just want you to garner some wisdom from my experiences. Don't dillute you product by going to the orient, no matter how enticing it is. Be true to yourself and your country and remain domestic.

It's nice to say that when we shop at Wal-Mart and communicate on computers made in China and elsewhere and drive cars from Europe and a million other imported goods and things but it has to start somewhere. Might as well be with you...and me.

I visited your site and had a look around. When you bring out your larger unit, I will probably be interested in one. You see, I have nothing under 90 horsepower here.
 
   / The Jake Rake #119  
I've since added him and only him to my ignore list.

I guess the old saying is right about not being able please everyone.

I had a similar experience with a member who accused me of ratting him out to the moderators. I didn't as I feel the forums are a place for a free exchange of information whether we agree with each other and the subject matter or not. No matter, I just came to the conclusion the guy/gal is nothing more than a blowhard that's all talk and no walk like our illustrious president.
 
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