fivestring
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<font color="red">"It's not ugly, but a little different." </font>
C'mon, Gomez....
It IS ugly and different.
C'mon, Gomez....
It IS ugly and different.
The New F150
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Gomez
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Umm, I want to see one up close before I proclaim it as UGLY. It ain't no Aztec, Pacer, or Avalanche (wait that was another thread). The other two domestic truck makers have not cornered the market on beauty with their current offerings either. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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Our 98 F-150 is a XLT regular cab, 4x4 long bed with 4.6 and has no problems. The 02 F-250 is a XLT extended cab, 4x4 with long bed and 5.4. The 97 F-150 is a XLT extended cab, 4x2 with short bed and 4.2 None of these trucks have any problems and the 97' has a lot of miles (not sure since it is my friends but is near or over the 100k mark), the 98' has 103k and the 02 has 37k. If your dealer can't fix it take it to another dealer. Tell them what is wrong and what your other dealer tried doing. Tell them you want it fixed and don't buy the excuse that they are suppose to handle that way as that is a dealers excuse to quit working on your truck. Get it fixed or talk to Ford directly to see what they can do to help if your dealer fails to do anything.
I own a 97 F-150 V6 5spd with 87k miles. No prblems with it except I had a bad power window switch I just replace just two weeks ago. MY FIRST REPAIR. Anyway, mine tracked great and my original tires lasted 76k miles!!! When I replaced them, the tire shop kept insisting that they shoud do a front end alignment, but at 76k miles I didn't have any uneven wear. I said NO!!! They just wanted another $50 out of me.
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Just 'pokin you a little. I wanted to see if you were awake!!
Just 'pokin you a little. I wanted to see if you were awake!!
TresCrows
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"The F150 was clearly the strongest trailed by Dodge, GMC and lastly the Tundra"
Not to argue, but the Tundra has come out on top of every crash test. I know you guys don't believe in such things. The Tundras fore and aft frame is designed to crush, the cab is designed to stay intact and it does unlike the Ford, Chevy and Dodge--especially Ford which totally crushes and failed the tests with FATAL results that were WALKAWAY in a Tundra--that is FACT. As to towing and hauling loads of crushed rock, whatever floats your boat, mine has towed everything I needed towing effortlessly in total silence and if I cannot get it in the bed I gladly pay for delievery. I suspect the new Nissan Titan which had the higher tow rating when compared to the new Ford and has more horsepower and came out on top in several recent tests is the truck to beat. Oh, the Tundra is full size, its as big as my brothers Ford F150 which spends most of it's time in the shop getting various nit picks fixed. The new Ford does look nice, I wish it well.
If I were a Billionaire, I would not get a new car every two years, I would drive what I have and give the money to someone who needs it more than I needing a new car. J
Not to argue, but the Tundra has come out on top of every crash test. I know you guys don't believe in such things. The Tundras fore and aft frame is designed to crush, the cab is designed to stay intact and it does unlike the Ford, Chevy and Dodge--especially Ford which totally crushes and failed the tests with FATAL results that were WALKAWAY in a Tundra--that is FACT. As to towing and hauling loads of crushed rock, whatever floats your boat, mine has towed everything I needed towing effortlessly in total silence and if I cannot get it in the bed I gladly pay for delievery. I suspect the new Nissan Titan which had the higher tow rating when compared to the new Ford and has more horsepower and came out on top in several recent tests is the truck to beat. Oh, the Tundra is full size, its as big as my brothers Ford F150 which spends most of it's time in the shop getting various nit picks fixed. The new Ford does look nice, I wish it well.
If I were a Billionaire, I would not get a new car every two years, I would drive what I have and give the money to someone who needs it more than I needing a new car. J
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He was talking about the Frame of the trucks. Not the crash test or any other test but just the frame.
Docsknotinn
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My take on the import vehicles is this. Most of my neighbors friends and relatives work for the big three. I dont know anyone working for toyota or Vw etc. They support my buisiness and the very LEAST I can do is support them in return. Add to that I grew up in a UAW family and walked more than one picket line with dad. That was a time that if you drove one of those four letteter word cars/trucks to work you could expect to find it in less than pristine condition when you returned. Times have changed and we now live in a global economy, but if you drive one of "those" you dont get to park in the same lot. LOL. I have never and never will own one. I dont care How safe. MPG, cost, etc etc etc. Dave
TresCrows
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"He was talking about the Frame of the trucks. Not the crash test or any other test but just the frame."
Yeah, I know he was and don't you think that might have something to do with crash tests? I suppose it is difficult to design something to be both weak and strong, I will take what it is because it is darn good.
It is just an observation that most of the TBN members are from the Heartland states, Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma etc, that great central area defined by the Rockies to the west and the Ohio River to the east the Lakes to the north. Within the confines of that geographic area "domestic" brands are clearly more popular /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif. I rarely see anything but Chevy trucks or the Ford here in Kansas for example. However, west of the Rockies, down South and along the Eastern seaboard I see lot's of Toyotas and Nissans and so called imports even though many of them are built here and many so called domestics are from Mexico or Canada.
Where the Ford and Dodge etc have an advantage is in heavy trucks. They have engine and drive train combos that are not matched in a domestic built import truck. They have sturdy suspensions and frames and are built for heavy work and do well at it. The base trucks like the F150 and whatever it is that GM makes of that type are used mostly for private use and transportation and occasional light hauling or towing a ski boat or some such as that. For those purposes the Tundra is at least as well suited or more so because it provides superior ride and safety. The new Titan is going to be the class leader and I believe it will be built here in the USA, not in Mexico from Brazilian made parts but heck, they need jobs down there too so that is a good thing as well /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
Well, y'all pat yourself on the back for being a Chevy guy and laugh all you like at "import" owners at the nursery or wherever because I assure you they are laughing right back at you, especially every time they pass the pump or the repair shop and every time they go off road or down a bumpy road and hear no squeaks or rattles. Perhaps import owners are jaded because I would have to get the manual out to see how to open my hoods, last time I looked under the Tundra hood was a couple of years ago meanwhile I am always under the Jeep hood trying to figure out what is making funny noises now or where this part I found on the driveway should rightly belong. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif J
Yeah, I know he was and don't you think that might have something to do with crash tests? I suppose it is difficult to design something to be both weak and strong, I will take what it is because it is darn good.
It is just an observation that most of the TBN members are from the Heartland states, Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma etc, that great central area defined by the Rockies to the west and the Ohio River to the east the Lakes to the north. Within the confines of that geographic area "domestic" brands are clearly more popular /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif. I rarely see anything but Chevy trucks or the Ford here in Kansas for example. However, west of the Rockies, down South and along the Eastern seaboard I see lot's of Toyotas and Nissans and so called imports even though many of them are built here and many so called domestics are from Mexico or Canada.
Where the Ford and Dodge etc have an advantage is in heavy trucks. They have engine and drive train combos that are not matched in a domestic built import truck. They have sturdy suspensions and frames and are built for heavy work and do well at it. The base trucks like the F150 and whatever it is that GM makes of that type are used mostly for private use and transportation and occasional light hauling or towing a ski boat or some such as that. For those purposes the Tundra is at least as well suited or more so because it provides superior ride and safety. The new Titan is going to be the class leader and I believe it will be built here in the USA, not in Mexico from Brazilian made parts but heck, they need jobs down there too so that is a good thing as well /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
Well, y'all pat yourself on the back for being a Chevy guy and laugh all you like at "import" owners at the nursery or wherever because I assure you they are laughing right back at you, especially every time they pass the pump or the repair shop and every time they go off road or down a bumpy road and hear no squeaks or rattles. Perhaps import owners are jaded because I would have to get the manual out to see how to open my hoods, last time I looked under the Tundra hood was a couple of years ago meanwhile I am always under the Jeep hood trying to figure out what is making funny noises now or where this part I found on the driveway should rightly belong. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif J
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I have no problems with Toyota's or the like. But the Tundra doesn't compete with any of the big 3 except maybe Dodge a little because they lack options. Look at Ford and Chevy. You can get numerous towing and hauling packages on the half tons as well as multiple cab and box configurations with usually at least 3-4 engine combos and 3-5 trim levels. The Tundra is more of a "take it like this and like it" truck. They may be nice trucks but if Toyota would offer the truck with a more customizable approach they would sell better.
Our trucks get used a ton on construction. The F-150's are still very popular in construction as they are well suited for most jobs. The 250's and 350's are also popular but you don't need every truck in the fleet to be a 250 on most sites. My 150 gets used as much as the 250 and it has held up well in the rough conditions it faces day in and day out. The Tundra has more of a domestic use appearance and that is backed up by the lack of options for the trade industry. They may be nice but they won't compete in the work force. Now the new Nissan looks like it might compete. We will see when it comes out.
Also, Grandfather worked for Ford. We get Ford discounts on new trucks. Can't pass them up for anything /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Our trucks get used a ton on construction. The F-150's are still very popular in construction as they are well suited for most jobs. The 250's and 350's are also popular but you don't need every truck in the fleet to be a 250 on most sites. My 150 gets used as much as the 250 and it has held up well in the rough conditions it faces day in and day out. The Tundra has more of a domestic use appearance and that is backed up by the lack of options for the trade industry. They may be nice but they won't compete in the work force. Now the new Nissan looks like it might compete. We will see when it comes out.
Also, Grandfather worked for Ford. We get Ford discounts on new trucks. Can't pass them up for anything /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif