The right to bear arms

[MossRoad]

I've been watching old westerns on youtube, and found this one amusing.


THE RESTLESS GUN - BETTER THAN A CANNON - YouTube

No doubt this thread will get perverted into a philosophical debate between black and white, but hopefully we can have some fun with it first.
Skip forward to 5:12, and you will see one of the characters "bear arms" in the form of a loaded cannon.

Took 4 posts.

 

[CalG]

I've been watching old westerns on youtube, and found this one amusing.


THE RESTLESS GUN - BETTER THAN A CANNON - YouTube

No doubt this thread will get perverted into a philosophical debate between black and white, but hopefully we can have some fun with it first.
Skip forward to 5:12, and you will see one of the characters "bear arms" in the form of a loaded cannon.

How could you know the cannon was loaded?

Was the touch hole fused?

 

[Steppenwolfe]

the very reason the north almost lost the civil war.. Because common citizens were allowed to own the same weapons as the military

The Government vowed to never allow the common peasant to ever be as well armed as the military ever again.
And, this is the reason the common peasant is where he /she is today. Restricted as to what he /she is allowed to own by the powers that be.
Peasants must remain in check at all times

You really think you have a chance against the modern American military??? Uh...No. The best solution is to keep our Democracy viable; and not stomping the crap out of it because "losing" sucks.

 

[CalG]

You really think you have a chance against the modern American military??? Uh...No. The best solution is to keep our Democracy viable; and not stomping the crap out of it because "losing" sucks.

Fortunately, that American Military is composed of American sons and daughters. I wounder about youth's ideology at times, but to date, family still has it's bonds.
We don't need any Matt Damon complex, that's for sure.

 

[GeneV]

You really think you have a chance against the modern American military??? Uh...No. The best solution is to keep our Democracy viable; and not stomping the crap out of it because "losing" sucks.

Weeeeeell, considering after 20 years of heavy US military presence in A-stan, the taliban (mostly armed with rifles and ied's) is nowhere near defeated (quite the opposite, actually)...yeh there's a chance.

 

[Sigarms]

Yes, at the time our Constitution was written, individuals owned not only cannons, but also armed warships.

The idea that the 2A was not meant to allow citizens to have "modern military arms" is totally false.

Tell that to a black man in the 1800's.

 

[Sigarms]

Weeeeeell, considering after 20 years of heavy US military presence in A-stan, the taliban (mostly armed with rifles and ied's) is nowhere near defeated (quite the opposite, actually)...yeh there's a chance.

I remember when it was the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

For some reason, the lesson of using your military as a police force hasn't really sunk in yet. The militarys job isn't to win the hearts and minds of people, it's to kill people.

As much as I was in disbelief when Bush Sr. pulled out so quickly, the reality is he use the military to accomplish an objective, and got them out. I've always respected him for that.

 

[Fuddy1952]

They're coming after our guns, don't you forget it. They hate the 2nd amendment. But even with the second amendment. It didn't help folks in California or New York and some of the north eastern states, too.
The folks in Congress act as if they are not even the United States side of any thing.
Just look at the so called Covid relief bill
$50 million to Egypt's military
Assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Exhibit B: Funds for "Resource Study of Springfield (Illinois) Race Riot." That riot occurred in (checks notes) 1908.

Exhibit C: "Statement Of Policy Regarding The Succession Or Reincarnation Of The Dalai Lama." We'll just leave that one there.


Exhibit D: There's actually a commission tasked with educating 田onsumers about the dangers associated with using or storing portable fuel containers for flammable liquids near an open flame."

Exhibit E: Another $40 million will be allocated "for the necessary expenses for the operation, maintenance and security" of The Kennedy Center, which received $25 million in another COVID-19 relief bill earlier this year. Also in a related story, the Kennedy Center has been closed.

Exhibits F, G, H, I, J: $86 million for assistance to Cambodia; $130 million to Nepal, $135 million to Burma, $453 million to Ukraine, $1million to Burma to repair a patrol boat, $700 million to Sudan.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

You get the idea. It's the oldest trick in Washington: Take a bill that symbolically is overwhelmingly supported by the American people on its title alone (COVID-19 relief for those struggling due to the pandemic). Then attach every pet project possible, in this case by combining it with an omnibus spending bill, and away we go.

You're so right...unfortunately.

 

[JethroB]

This thread was started because of a humorous youtube video I was watching, and tried to share. Barring that, very nature of the topic means it's predestined to be closed.

Sort of like the stolen sign thread, lets pick the day. I say Monday 12/28.

 

[GeneV]

Sort of like the stolen sign thread, lets pick the day. I say Monday 12/28.

An optimist over here! You really think a thread like this is gonna ride for 2 days? :laughing: