The Sorry State of Today's Journalism

[jlgurr]

Everyone crosses their own Rubicon at a different place. HS

This is another thing I enjoy about TBN... I learn new expressions all the time. And this one even included a brief history lesson when I googled "cross the Rubicon."

Thank you HS!

Jeff

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[dave1949]

The getaway car was a Jetta with a moon roof, not a Jeep Rubicon.

Who was the other person in the video on foot coming from the store that looked like he was holding a pistol out in front in a half-hearted shooting stance?

 

[texasjohn]

person getting into car....robber
person running after car in shooting stance...shooter, store owner's son

video is low quality but sufficient to show the basic story, unclear exactly when in video shooting occurred, possibly right when it stops, has to be a reason it stops before the car leaves the scene.

 

[dave1949]

person getting into car....robber
person running after car in shooting stance...shooter, store owner's son

video is low quality but sufficient to show the basic story, unclear exactly when in video shooting occurred, possibly right when it stops, has to be a reason it stops before the car leaves the scene.

Look at the slide show. In the fourth pic the shadow of a second person on the left appears. In the next pic there is the moving car, the shooter, and a third person appears still on the left side. I am assuming that person also came from the store.
Clerk turns self in after man shot in head following chainsaw th - WECT TV6-WECT.com:News, weather & sports Wilmington, NC

 

[texasjohn]

different link than the one I had been looking at...you are correct, another person. I assume it is the store owner/dad, but don't actually know...am sure all will be revealed in the trial, several years from now. What a nightmare for store owner and son between now and jury verdict, and beyond...

 

[dave1949]

different link than the one I had been looking at...you are correct, another person. I assume it is the store owner/dad, but don't actually know...am sure all will be revealed in the trial, several years from now. What a nightmare for store owner and son between now and jury verdict, and beyond...

I think the video version doesn't show that other person, maybe edited out for some reason.

Yes, very sad affair and I'm sure we don't know all the details. Like, why did the son not shoot until the car was already moving away? Did he think he saw a gun in the car? Did the son have a clear goal of what he was trying to accomplish--stop the theft, apprehend the thieves, or was it frustration and anger that boiled over?

I really do think if you go brazenly stealing in broad daylight and especially while others are around, you deserve whatever happens to you. The problem is that can go wrong in so many ways.

 

[smstonypoint]

I have been in the shop several times picking up parts for my chainsaws and ZTR. I have never met the dad, but I have dealt with the son and his mother.

I suspect that the video works against the defense. Absent the video, the DA would have to rely on the testimony of the thieves if they were the only eyewitnesses other than the son and the second person shown in the photos.

Steve

 

[300UGUY]

I had neighbor that retired from the Detroit police force after 30 years, most of it as a homicide detective. He arrested many very bad men, multiple murders to their credit, and never fired his gun. He wasn't a big guy, but everybody respected him.

 

[Garandman]

I had neighbor that retired from the Detroit police force after 30 years, most of it as a homicide detective. He arrested many very bad men, multiple murders to their credit, and never fired his gun. He wasn't a big guy, but everybody respected him.

Approximately 95% of career police officers never fire their gun except in training.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I have stated on here several times, there is nothing I own worth dying for or killing someone for. I will run away from any thief trying to rob me.

But if you threaten one of my family I will do whatever possible to protect them. Including using deadly force.

Killing somebody over a chainsaw........??? No way!

I respectfully, disagree. Shooting thieves would deter future thievery. I believe we have passed the threshold of turning the other cheek. Too many are willing to steal, because there is too little effort to prosecute. Shoot a man in the get away car, no. Shoot him in the act, on private property, definitely a deterrent. My, No Trespassing signs, aren't a suggestion...