the throne sweats

[heehaw]

i put in a new throne a couple weeks ago: an the tank condenses on the outside worse than any i have ever had: i will be going to lowes today to see if they still sell the insulation kits for commodes: has any one had any experience with those kits?
heehaw

 

[jayste]

Sorry Heehaw but the only throne sweats I've experienced is during a case of the stomach flu!

 

[Boiler74]

The toilet is running. The tank sweats because it is continually getting new, cold water to it. And just a like a cold glass of iced tea on a hot day, it's sweating. So you need to find the leak in the tank and fix it. And when I say leak, I don't mean leaking out onto the floor. Water is running (leaking) out of the tank and into the bowl. Then down the drain. This has been my experience when a toilet sweats, at least.

Josh

 

[EddieWalker]

I agree with Boiler. The water is too cold for whatever reason, and it's not warming up. Leaking tanks will do this, as will really hot homes with a water supply that is very cold. I've never seen or heard of an insulation kit for the tank, but wonder if the tank itself is extremely thin? Is it porcelean?

I'd take the lid off and watch the water level to see what it's doing. You should be able to hear the water run if it's dropping, unless you have the valve open just a bit and the water flow coming in is real slow. Most leaking tanks make allot of noise with the water coming on and off again.

If it's one of those American Standard tanks with the big O Ring type flapper, good luck. I've found them to be great for flushing, but terrible for holding water. I've thrown two of them away because it was impossible to get them to work right.

Eddie

 

[MossRoad]

I'm going to agree with the last two posters. Our tank was sweating quite a bit. I took the temp of the water and it was much cooler than the air in the house. If no one use the toilet for a long time, say overnight, the temp should be pretty equal to the air around it. I could not hear a leak, but in the middle of the night I could hear our well come on. That meant something, somewhere was allowing the water pressure to drop. I changed the whole flush valve/float thingy and the tank stopped sweating immediately. It was an easy repair even for me!

 

[jayste]

Ok. Back to the serious throne content. After reading all you guys' posts I can add some positive content here. I had a similar situation about 3 weeks ago. I didn't experience the "sweats" due to (I'm assuming here) the fact that according to my wife I keep the house "freezing" anyway. What I'm saying is that our water is close to the air temp in our house. Now, that's debatable but not here. Below is a link to the fill valve that I bought at Lowes that really did the job. It comes with a new flapper as well. I had first replaced the flapper and found out that wasn't it. So $12.00 later I had another new flapper and a new fill valve installed. (the not-so-new flapper went into the "possible future needs" drawer in the utility room).
Oh, by the way, this valve is very quiet and self contained within the valve body assembly.

http://www.korky.com/WaterWI$E818Z.html

 

[heehaw]

i will agree the water coming in, is a lot colder than the room air temp: about it leaking, i will let you know in about an hour, because i shut the water off to it: if the water level drops, i'll look for a leak, if not then i am back to it being the cold water an room air temp difference: which is what the insulating kits that lowes sells for $18 is suppose to solve: i will say that the previous throne would sweat too: but no where near the amount that this new one does: more in an an hour or so.
heehaw

 

[MossRoad]

You could plumb it to the hot water side and use a mixer valve to adjust it to a warm, but not hot temperature.

 

[jayste]

Heehaw, looking into the bowl, can you see water running? You might have to get at a slight angle or change positions to let light reflect. This will only show up if you have the water on and the line pressurized, that is if it is the flow valve.

 

[/pine]

I have Kohler and the tank came lined with styrofoam