the throne sweats

[heehaw]

ok, no leaks: one thing i did notice: the thickness of the tank seems less than on the one i took out, which is exactly like the one in the other bathroom: that could account for them not "sweating" as much: i bought one of the kits at lowes: an may go ahead an put it in: i am considering a couple other options first: $18 seems a little high for 3 pieces of 1/4 inch styrofoam an a small tube of glue: i am thinking about draining, drying an then coating the inside with cool-seal roof coating: or, i priced the rubberized, adhesive strips like goes around windows to seal them: enough to do the inside of the tank would be less than $18, an that stuff seems to hold really well: i thought about mixing the hot water, but i don't think i want to go there: that seems like a lot more trouble than any other option i can think of.
just measured the temp of the water coming in: 48degrees:
heehaw

 

[MossRoad]

Yeah, but just think about sitting down on a "heated" throne.

 

[/pine]

With some of the newer units you have to be very careful with the volume of water in the tank...one of my toilets (may be American Standard) will not flush properly unless there is the exact right amount of water in the tank...

By consuming volume with added insulation etc. you may need to raise the spill over tube to allow the tank to hold enough water...

 

[heehaw]

it flushes great now, an the water is well below the top of the spill over tube: i think the new thrones flush with 1.5 gallons of water: the one i replaced was bought in 86, an i think they used about 3 gallons?? i'm guessin here.... but i am considering putting the tank from the old throne on the new one: can't see what difference that would make..i can always adjust the water level. anyway, am still considering options../pine, does that kohler have styrofoam in the bottom of the tank?
heehaw

 

[Wayne County Hose]

Real easy solution and I guarantee the problem will be solved. When I bought my new house, we had the same problem with both toilets. My dad installed a mixer valve in the supply line of both toilets. The mixer valve hooks to the hot and cold water lines, has built in check valves, and is adjustable. Adjusted until the incoming water line felt about room temperature, no more tank sweating. My well water was so cold that it made condensation on the outside of the tank.

 

[heehaw]

i'll let you know how it works, but i am going to take the tank off, strip it down on the inside an glue some styrofoam to the sides an bottom: i think that will take less work an hopefully have good results.
heehaw

 

[heehaw]

well, i don't think i would do this again: since the tank has rounded ends, i had to cut the styrofoam into small strips an glue them in individually: an of course the kit doesn't come with enough glue to do that: so i used some silicon thats rated for fish tanks: i am now waiting on it to dry in place before i put it back together an hope for the best: i may get some of that shiney flexable insulation that lowes sells, to go in attics to reflect the heat: an try putting some of that in one of the other tanks: it would sure go in a lot easier, an would actually probably do just as good a job...with the temp of our incoming water, all three thrones sweat, but the new one is a lot worse than the ones i installed in 86:
heehaw

 

[Kays Supply]

One difference in tanks is that the older tanks were made with double walls. When they mold the tank the ceramic liquid is poured in a mold and then after a while the mold is dumped. It leaves a layer of slip on the inside and outside of the mold. When it is fired it is then double walled. The new ones are single wall. There is no insulating at all.

 

[PILOON]

Maybe it's a Canada thing, but every thunder bowl I have installed over the last 6 years or so came insulated. Also low flush and in the $100. or less range.

 

[Skyco]

well, i don't think i would do this again: since the tank has rounded ends, i had to cut the styrofoam into small strips an glue them in individually: an of course the kit doesn't come with enough glue to do that: so i used some silicon thats rated for fish tanks:

Yep- sure wouldn't want to kill anything living in the toilet tank

BTW I hope to never have to replace my old high volume flush toilets...I'm on a well and septic so what I pull out of the ground goes back in the ground...hopefully with no actual intermixing