MDNY
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WOW! What a topic. I read through it all before stopping to put in a post. Although I am only a short lived 32 years (going on 33 in 6 months) I have seem some, but not all of what has been commented on here.
I lived in suburbia until I was about 11, then moved to the country. I lived there for another 6 years until I moved to the suburbs again. When I lived in the country my house was 2.5 miles from the main road (no dirt here, but oil and stones every other year). I got milk from the local dairy farms and lived with well water. Most of the property was farms and the kids didn’t drive tractors to school, but at age 16 they did get new cars.
I look back at school and being a kid from 11 - 17 years of age. The hard years, and even harder years to fit into a new school, making new friends. Back in the 80's there was the in-crowd, jocks, preps, and the such and you determined your lot in life (or so everyone tells you). For me I usually make friends easily, but tend to not like large crowds where I don't know anyone.
Everywhere back then and more so today there are dysfunctional families abound, teenage drinking (though not at 12-13 like today), teenage sex, but most seemed smart enough to use "protection". For me I grew up in a household that had its issues, alcohol, parental issues and the like. The last of the brood that hadn't gone off to college yet, but I did the best I could. I don’t k now if things are worse today or that things are more pronounced by the media and anti-whatever groups.
Everyone says violence on TV and the music kids listen to (No one shoots themselves over Glenn Miller songs was funny) is what is killing or causing kids to kill. Funny how I watched at the time the most violent TV show the A-Team every Sunday with the family. I owned a BB Gun (Daisy Red Rider), but didn’t learn to shoot anything above that.
I remember in school if you got in trouble you got into more trouble at home. Wooden spoon, 2" wide leather belt folded in half. Lessons learned at home are the most enduring you will have. Only been in one fist fight in my life, sort of ended in a draw. Ran into the kid years later and whatever it was about didn't matter, we said hello, talked a bit and said goodbye. He never liked me, and I never understood why, guess it was because we were different, nothing more. Funny thing is the difference between us wasn’t that big of a deal. We had the same friends senior year.
It seems odd that kids today don't, won't or are told they needn’t worry about their attitude or trouble they cause by their parents. These are the same people who grew up as I did, or did they? They know better or don’t they?
Kids today have no direction, cause to focus on or guidance to keep them on the right path. School shootings and planned mass killings in our schools continue to plague us . It has been several years, the death toll continues to climb and some school killing plots are thwarted, unfortunately not all , for that would be best.
We are still plagued with a judicial, political and law enforcement system that doesn't deal with the problem. The attitude of the kids and that of their parents is even worse. I remember the first new accounts of that killing (I believe it was either in PA or AR?). Those two middle school boys who used the riffles they stole from one of the their grandparents. They couldn’t be tried as adults, they are told it wasn't their fault, and they say they feel sorry for what they did. So does the school teachers husband who was killed. Only his wife won't be coming home, ever.
It is simple, if you commit a crime on publicly funded (or non-publicly funded) schools it will be a federal offense and you will be tried as a adult. This could be the beginning of dealing with it. The rate of school murders doesn’t seem to go down each year. The parents are to be held responsible. Kids today shouldn’t have the internet as their guardian, chat rooms as their friends, and access to firearms like a 9mm pistol, like the boy who killed his parents and went to school with his gun. Why, his father took it away to teach him a lesson.
Change will only be put into effect by those who want things to get better. If we wait and see if the water breaks the levy before we move out of town, then the levy will break and all will be lost.
I am not against gun control, but proper use of guns. If we left the government and law enforcement with the only guns, who protects us from them (The American Revolution). Underage drinking is illegal, but there is no set national drinking age, set one. There is no national database of drivers licenses that can track the driving infractions all across the country, set one. We have 13 million illegal immigrants or those who have been asked to leave due to visa expirations. They haven’t, and there are too many to catch. We need to set up databases to watch things like flight schools, trucking licenses to move hazardous waste, people who order anthrax in the mail etc. We haven’ and we won’t until its too late, again.
Sorry I rambled, and it was long, but hey you never know. (NYS Lotto)
Michael
I lived in suburbia until I was about 11, then moved to the country. I lived there for another 6 years until I moved to the suburbs again. When I lived in the country my house was 2.5 miles from the main road (no dirt here, but oil and stones every other year). I got milk from the local dairy farms and lived with well water. Most of the property was farms and the kids didn’t drive tractors to school, but at age 16 they did get new cars.
I look back at school and being a kid from 11 - 17 years of age. The hard years, and even harder years to fit into a new school, making new friends. Back in the 80's there was the in-crowd, jocks, preps, and the such and you determined your lot in life (or so everyone tells you). For me I usually make friends easily, but tend to not like large crowds where I don't know anyone.
Everywhere back then and more so today there are dysfunctional families abound, teenage drinking (though not at 12-13 like today), teenage sex, but most seemed smart enough to use "protection". For me I grew up in a household that had its issues, alcohol, parental issues and the like. The last of the brood that hadn't gone off to college yet, but I did the best I could. I don’t k now if things are worse today or that things are more pronounced by the media and anti-whatever groups.
Everyone says violence on TV and the music kids listen to (No one shoots themselves over Glenn Miller songs was funny) is what is killing or causing kids to kill. Funny how I watched at the time the most violent TV show the A-Team every Sunday with the family. I owned a BB Gun (Daisy Red Rider), but didn’t learn to shoot anything above that.
I remember in school if you got in trouble you got into more trouble at home. Wooden spoon, 2" wide leather belt folded in half. Lessons learned at home are the most enduring you will have. Only been in one fist fight in my life, sort of ended in a draw. Ran into the kid years later and whatever it was about didn't matter, we said hello, talked a bit and said goodbye. He never liked me, and I never understood why, guess it was because we were different, nothing more. Funny thing is the difference between us wasn’t that big of a deal. We had the same friends senior year.
It seems odd that kids today don't, won't or are told they needn’t worry about their attitude or trouble they cause by their parents. These are the same people who grew up as I did, or did they? They know better or don’t they?
Kids today have no direction, cause to focus on or guidance to keep them on the right path. School shootings and planned mass killings in our schools continue to plague us . It has been several years, the death toll continues to climb and some school killing plots are thwarted, unfortunately not all , for that would be best.
We are still plagued with a judicial, political and law enforcement system that doesn't deal with the problem. The attitude of the kids and that of their parents is even worse. I remember the first new accounts of that killing (I believe it was either in PA or AR?). Those two middle school boys who used the riffles they stole from one of the their grandparents. They couldn’t be tried as adults, they are told it wasn't their fault, and they say they feel sorry for what they did. So does the school teachers husband who was killed. Only his wife won't be coming home, ever.
It is simple, if you commit a crime on publicly funded (or non-publicly funded) schools it will be a federal offense and you will be tried as a adult. This could be the beginning of dealing with it. The rate of school murders doesn’t seem to go down each year. The parents are to be held responsible. Kids today shouldn’t have the internet as their guardian, chat rooms as their friends, and access to firearms like a 9mm pistol, like the boy who killed his parents and went to school with his gun. Why, his father took it away to teach him a lesson.
Change will only be put into effect by those who want things to get better. If we wait and see if the water breaks the levy before we move out of town, then the levy will break and all will be lost.
I am not against gun control, but proper use of guns. If we left the government and law enforcement with the only guns, who protects us from them (The American Revolution). Underage drinking is illegal, but there is no set national drinking age, set one. There is no national database of drivers licenses that can track the driving infractions all across the country, set one. We have 13 million illegal immigrants or those who have been asked to leave due to visa expirations. They haven’t, and there are too many to catch. We need to set up databases to watch things like flight schools, trucking licenses to move hazardous waste, people who order anthrax in the mail etc. We haven’ and we won’t until its too late, again.
Sorry I rambled, and it was long, but hey you never know. (NYS Lotto)
Michael
