tncruzin
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Believe it or not, the keys that came with my tractor are Toyota car keys that someone has filed down to work. So like you said, a key is just for convenience but it's absence does little towards security.
Security & Theft Theft prevention for tractor?
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Soundguy
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Anyway, if you screwed them into the ground and put a hefty chain or steel cable through your rear tractor wheel (one wheel would do) and lock it with a heavy duty lock. It would be rather hard for any theif to take )</font>
That's still only good for the lazy, dumb, or honest theifs.
An 18v sawsall and a metal cutting blad would practically be a 'spare' key for that setup.. as with most 'tie' down setups. Not to mention a gas axe..
We had an air compressor stolen from out of a service truck overnight. The compressor was bolted thru the truck bed.. they simply blew the bolt tops off and stole the compressor. I'll bet it didn't take them 5 minutes.... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Soundguy
That's still only good for the lazy, dumb, or honest theifs.
An 18v sawsall and a metal cutting blad would practically be a 'spare' key for that setup.. as with most 'tie' down setups. Not to mention a gas axe..
We had an air compressor stolen from out of a service truck overnight. The compressor was bolted thru the truck bed.. they simply blew the bolt tops off and stole the compressor. I'll bet it didn't take them 5 minutes.... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Believe it or not, the keys that came with my tractor are Toyota car keys that someone has filed down to work. So like you said, a key is just for convenience but it's absence does little towards security. )</font>
My yanmar 1700 came with a generic 'echlin' key/switch from napa.. I wanted a spare key.. but you can't buy a 'spare' without buying a switch.. as they are just generic stamped out units. I found an old cabinet key with nearly the same size groove on the correct side. I cut it with a small file set... in about 10 minutes...worked great.. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Lawnmower keys are like this too. At work, we take a few pices of sheet metal.. lay them together and cut dupe keys out on the metal bandsaw for the lawnmower.. works for cat battery keys too... Takes about 5 minutes to cut 6 keys at once.. As a side benifit on the cat key, is you can grind the ear off on the prongs.. and then retract the key after turning the battery switch on...
Soundguy
My yanmar 1700 came with a generic 'echlin' key/switch from napa.. I wanted a spare key.. but you can't buy a 'spare' without buying a switch.. as they are just generic stamped out units. I found an old cabinet key with nearly the same size groove on the correct side. I cut it with a small file set... in about 10 minutes...worked great.. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Lawnmower keys are like this too. At work, we take a few pices of sheet metal.. lay them together and cut dupe keys out on the metal bandsaw for the lawnmower.. works for cat battery keys too... Takes about 5 minutes to cut 6 keys at once.. As a side benifit on the cat key, is you can grind the ear off on the prongs.. and then retract the key after turning the battery switch on...
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Cliff_Johns
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OK, I think we've established that if someone want's your tractor, they can take it with minimum tools. Thus the only solution must involve them not wanting to take your tractor which leads us back to making them think the tractor you have is not worth having. So buy your new tractor, but paint it to look like a piece of crap (or a cow)
Or alternatively, you really just need a less interesting or harder to steal tractor than your neighbor. Perhaps you could add a sign saying "Easier to steal and better looking tractor that way" with an arrow pointing to your neighbors farm.
Cliff
Or alternatively, you really just need a less interesting or harder to steal tractor than your neighbor. Perhaps you could add a sign saying "Easier to steal and better looking tractor that way" with an arrow pointing to your neighbors farm.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( OK, I think we've established that if someone want's your tractor, they can take it with minimum tools )</font>
Unfortunately that's the way physics works.. a 5$ hacksaw from harbor freight will cut a 90$ chain and warded lock /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Out of site out of mind is probably the next best thing ( assuming you don't have an armed guard! or lojack! )
Remember the days when you didn't lock your front door? (sigh) I still do...
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Unfortunately that's the way physics works.. a 5$ hacksaw from harbor freight will cut a 90$ chain and warded lock /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Out of site out of mind is probably the next best thing ( assuming you don't have an armed guard! or lojack! )
Remember the days when you didn't lock your front door? (sigh) I still do...
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slowrev
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Remember the days when you didn't lock your front door? (sigh) I still do...
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Don't lock my doors unless I am going to be gone for some time. Still a good country neighborhood here....for now at least. I do lock my workshop though /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Don't lock my doors unless I am going to be gone for some time. Still a good country neighborhood here....for now at least. I do lock my workshop though /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Ben
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( paint it to look like a piece of crap )</font>
PAINT IT??
no need, it alredy looks like a peice of crap, if anyone stole it the jokes on them /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
would be sad to see it go though /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
PAINT IT??
no need, it alredy looks like a peice of crap, if anyone stole it the jokes on them /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
would be sad to see it go though /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
cmkh3
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HMMMM, perhaps if you have an electrical source you could run a hot lead to the tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Chris /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
PS I was thinking of 480 3 phase not just 110 using buried welding cables so their hidden until they touch it and then whamo, either dead or sitting in the neighbors yard with one **** of a story.
Chris /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
PS I was thinking of 480 3 phase not just 110 using buried welding cables so their hidden until they touch it and then whamo, either dead or sitting in the neighbors yard with one **** of a story.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Perhaps you could add a sign saying "Easier to steal and better looking tractor that way" with an arrow pointing to your neighbors farm. Cliff )</font>
LMAO! Gerard
LMAO! Gerard
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( HMMMM, perhaps if you have an electrical source you could run a hot lead to the tractor. )</font>
You may remember the man who put electrical "avoidance" in the ceiling of his business. A burgler came through the roof, was shocked to death, and the proprieter was charged with, and found guilty of murder. Sure would be fun though. John
You may remember the man who put electrical "avoidance" in the ceiling of his business. A burgler came through the roof, was shocked to death, and the proprieter was charged with, and found guilty of murder. Sure would be fun though. John