These things have thorns

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AndyMA

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Ran into a few. Over 2 inches long

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Looks like a Locust. I have them all over the place. Not nice to tires either. I've herd there is a worse variety , Black Locust, so you may have that. I also have Cleveland Pears that have nasty thorns.
 
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When big enough they make good fenceposts though, which is what they were planted to produce years ago.
While native to the southern part of the US they are considered invasive in more northern regions... like here.
 
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Those are menacing looking! The red color makes it even worse I think. :laughing:
 
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Looks like a Locust. I have them all over the place. Not nice to tires either. I've herd there is a worse variety , Black Locust, so you may have that. I also have Cleveland Pears that have nasty thorns.

I think your right

See Honey locust - Wikipedia
 
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Indeed flesh rippers worse than thorn apples,if you watch close might see birds flying in and out from the nest early summer.
 
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Yep, Honey Locust! I've got plenty of them, cut & treat the stumps with Tordon RTU, the really thorny ones, if they aren't in the way, I cut a groove around the trunk through the bark & squirt the Tordon into the groove to kill them.

Black Locust are the post Locusts, we use hedge (Osage Orange) for posts around here!
 
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Looks like a Locust. I have them all over the place. Not nice to tires either. I've herd there is a worse variety , Black Locust, so you may have that. I also have Cleveland Pears that have nasty thorns.

Black locust has short twin thorns on the main stems, where the honey locust will have large multi fork thorns that can exceed over a foot long. Also the Honey locust thorns will be covered with a bacteria that can cause severe infections if they puncture the skin.
 
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I've got some honey locust trees in my lower pasture. They are the bane of my existence. If it's the last thing I accomplish on this earth, I'm gonna get rid of those evil things. The only problem is how to get rid of them without scattering their thorns all over the place.
 
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Black locust has short twin thorns on the main stems, where the honey locust will have large multi fork thorns that can exceed over a foot long. Also the Honey locust thorns will be covered with a bacteria that can cause severe infections if they puncture the skin.

Randy
Is it a bacteria or a oil on the thorn. Neighbor has honey locust and I get sprouts . If thorn gets in my finger I get rash that disappears within day of removing thorn.
 
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A close cousin is the black hawthorn. Their thorns aren't as long but will also leave an infected wound that takes a while to heal. They grow wild around here. They propagate from seeds and sprouts from the root system. I pulled out a root w/the tractor and it was 40' long. The roots re very hard to kill. The stumps I had were cut 20 years ago and still sprouting. Bury a piece of root in damp soil and it will sprout. They would make a wicked hedge and keep getting thicker as sprouts come up. Fantastic firewood though. Burns hot and clean.

Ron
 
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I planted a Hawthorn out in one of my fields. Its got thorns - nothing approaching what those pictures show. Maybe an inch long. Initially planted two - the survivor is ten years old.
 
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I planted a Hawthorn out in one of my fields. Its got thorns - nothing approaching what those pictures show. Maybe an inch long. Initially planted two - the survivor is ten years old.

Once a year take a sub-soiler and go around each one to stop roots from expanding outward. Keep the volunteer plants from growing unless you soon want a thicket around each one. Ones from seed pull up easy when fresh. Ones from roots can be difficult. I inherited 6 stumps 3' across and in 7 years of aggressive measures I still had shoots coming up from the roots and the base of the stumps. Tried a lot of things short of fire and nothing worked. Short of digging out every root I was baffled. In one yar a shoot left alone would grow 6'. That's 27 years after the trees were dropped.

LOL, Ron
 
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I have never found a tree or stump of any species that I couldn't kill by brushing a coat of undiluted 41% or higher glyphosate (generic Roundup) around outer 2 or 3" of the circumference of the top of the stump with one application.

Although there has been a lot in the news lately about how hazardous glyphosate can be to your health.
 
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I hate thorns! IMG00007-20100131-1723.jpegIMG00008-20100131-1723.jpeg
 
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I have never found a tree or stump of any species that I couldn't kill by brushing a coat of undiluted 41% or higher glyphosate (generic Roundup) around outer 2 or 3" of the circumference of the top of the stump with one application.

Although there has been a lot in the news lately about how hazardous glyphosate can be to your health.

That sure does not kill those Hawthorn roots. Nothing short of digging them up works. They live on for many many years.

Ron
 

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