This REALLY ticked me off when I lived in NY

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Buffalo Bills...Only team in history to go to four straight Super Bowls....unfortunately they didn't win any of them...

 

[Otto Syracuse]

Now, all that said, the "real upstate" New York was one of my most favorite states

Ok, youæ±*e forgiven. .

And I do agree that Cuomo HAS GOT TO GO.....unfortunately, the alternatives offered so far for the upcoming elections look more like sacrificial lambs than candidates for Governor.

 

[cqaigy2]

I am in complete sympathy with and understand your position/anger Sigarms. I live in a state - Washington - where a lot of folks think the only town, in this state, is Seattle. They look at me like I've lost my mind when I try to explain the wet and dry sides of the state. Best to just smile - and silently acknowledge their lack of knowledge.

Lol, we used to say, if they're not from the east side, they were from Seattle, as in, that hunter is a real Seattlite. :laughing:

 

[goeduck]

There is a New York STATE? I thought there was just a CITY called New York.....

Joking. Some people have not heard of Washington STATE, they think Washington is just DC.

I have always heard that update NY is very rural and beutituful. Never been there.

 

[Sigarms]

There is a New York STATE? I thought there was just a CITY called New York.....

Joking. Some people have not heard of Washington STATE, they think Washington is just DC.

I have always heard that update NY is very rural and beutituful. Never been there.

I was amazed at the amount of people I've come across in NC that only think of "Washington" as the district of columbia.

Spent some some time up in Idaho, and would go into the west side of Washington from the north side of Idaho. BEAUTIFUL area. Nothing agasint the East Coast, but we don't know what real mountains are when it comes to the states out west (added the fact that there are a lot less people and a lot bigger driving time before you come across something LOL). That said, everything is relative.

 

[fishheadbob]

I'd say that your #2 had a good definition of upstate. This wouldn't be a bad state if we could remove Albany and Buffalo toss them into NYC and then cut whole mess off and send it out to sea.

What did us Buffalo and Albany area folks ever do to you that you want to lump us in with NYC ? I'm all for cutting the big apple loose and sending it to sea, just don't want to be in the same boat.
I went to college just south of Buffalo in some real Gods' country with a guy from NYC who thought he was in the midwest.

 

[Sigarms]

What did us Buffalo and Albany area folks ever do to you that you want to lump us in with NYC ?

Please don't take this the wrong way, but the way I saw it, NYC controls Albany, and thus the state.

Years later after I left NY my old company offered me a good promotion and "stepping stone" in a career move, but I'd have to work out of Albany. They thought I was crazy when I told them no, and then probably border line insane when I told them why.

It is however nice to know people in that area feel the same way about NYC:thumbsup:

 

[Jstpssng]

There is a New York STATE? I thought there was just a CITY called New York.....

Joking. Some people have not heard of Washington STATE, they think Washington is just DC.

I have always heard that update NY is very rural and beutituful. Never been there.

I've heard the same about Washington and Oregon. I looked into working out there about 20 years ago but realized that I like working on flat ground too much. You guys have mountains that make ours look like foothills.

 

[Rustyiron]

Nothing agasint the East Coast, but we don't know what real mountains are when it comes to the states out west

I was aw struck my first time out west. Got home and was trying to tell my buddies how "big" it was. It was hard to express what I meant by "big". After another trip out, I told them how I curiously watched "a little black stripe" across the valley turn into a 163 car coal train after watching it for well over an hour parallel 90 going west through MT. I was riding shotgun and did count them when it eventually got close and passed under the interstate. Having an "east coast" perspective on the topography scale, the difference is amazing.
Got a similar story for UT, Elk hunting & my east coast eye's & brain could not see an elk herd that 4-5 other guys were watching, no way did I know we were glassing 8 miles away!

 

[fishheadbob]

It is however nice to know people in that area feel the same way about NYC:thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

No offense taken.

I see there are rumblings in California about dividing into three separate states. They do have enough population and economy to justify such a move. Yes it would give them 6 federal senators, all of whom would probably be as crazy as the current 2 are, but look at the Dakotas which have 4 senators, and I think 2 house members. Like having your own personal senator. Yes, NYC does have Chuck Schumer as a personal senator but he represents 8 or 10 million people from NYC and still throws a lot of pork upstate (wherever that might be).