Three point trencher

[Gary_in_Indiana]

I just came across this and thought it might be of some interest. It's a three point trencher for 35-45 HP 4WD compact utility tractors with HST. Just click here to take a look at it.

 

[timb]

Any idea why they're specifying a hydro? (Wondering if they're using that for a generic term for compacts?)

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Trenchers move really slowly - 1st gear on a mechanical is often too fast.

--->Paul

 

[diggerjim]

I have a Kelly hydro-trencher attachment for my YM2220D. If the grounds not too hard creeper works fine. If its hard I have to keep shifting in and out of gear with my powershift which does work but its not ideal. I only use the trencher for my own use, but it works great for planting trees and bushes.

JIM

 

[JerryG]

diggerjim,
Do you have the standard tranny or do you have the one with the creeper range?

 

[RMulkey]

I called Baretto for pricing and they said the price is $8500 without the chain. Chain is a few hundred. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 

[Twanger]

Also try Bradco at http://www.attachment.com/product_list.asp?company=10&class=0&prime=0&line=10&sub1=0&sub2=0
I would like you of these for my electrical business, but just can't find the $.

 

[diggerjim]

Jerry
I have creeper with powershift which divides the tranny by 3 forward, nuetral and 1 reverse. I've only found one job I couldn't do and found out with my backhoe that it used to be a driveway (50 years ago). The teeth on the hoe bucket smoked in some places. On the very hard soil the by-pass valve on the trencher opens which is not the tractors fault with the exception of ground speed. Sorry for rambling.

Jim

 

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How much is that one? Is 30" the MINIMUM digging depth?

 

[Darren]

Bradcos run in the $5,000 range. You still need HST and no more than 30 pto hp to make it work well.

 

[JerryG]

Thanks Jim,
I didn't think that you would have to keep kicking it in and out of gear if you had creeper gears. I have heard some say you did and some say you don't. It guess it depends on how low and how many creeper gears that you have. I have four creeper gears in addition to 12 regular gears both forward and reverse.

 

[longway5]

We've got the Bradco one at work that we use on a New Holland mechanical (45 hp) with a creeper range. Put it in creeper-1st gear and idle it along, and it will trench just about anything but solid rock. It will still pull up good size rocks on its own though. I think someone asked for the minimum depth on the Bradco - its 0". There is a hydraulic cylinder that controls the angle of the chain, and thus the depth. We use it mostly for drainage tile and irrigation, so we don't go much deeper than 15-18", but it could.

 

[ScottAR]

gearmore sells one as well.... I dunno any prices though.

 

[diggerjim]

The problem I 've encountered is at max. depth of 30". 6" to 18" is a breeze, thats tree/flower planting range! I put water lines in at max. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hope this helps.
Jim

 

[Anonymous Poster]

How do these trenchers compare speedwise with a good operator on a backhoe. I can see the advantage of not repositioning the tractor every ten feet or so, plus you would be guaranteed a consistent depth. How do they handle spud sized rocks? Around here you get more spuds than dirt once you scrape off the topsoil, will the teeth carry these rocks out of the trench?

 

[diggerjim]

hntr

Speed in my experience is about the same. We don't have alot of rocks although I've run into alot of bricks from old buildings and the trencher chews em up and spits em out. The main difference I see between a backhoe and trencher is topsoil damage, in most cases the trencher damages less soil than a hoe. My Case hoe bucket is 2 feet and that tears up the turf. A smaller hoe bucket would tear up less but would have some problems dumping wet or damp dirt (from our area) in my experience. Tree roots are a scourge for smaller trenchers like mine and a hoe usually would be an advantage in rooty areas. There are advantages and disadvantages for each piece thats why I have both.

My trencher was purchased at an equipment auction and was new without chain. The seller threw in a used chain to get me going. My Case hoe is old and slow but gets the job done. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Hope this helps.

Jim

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Thanks for the rundown on trenchers diggerjim. I didn't think about using one on turf. I can see how that would be a real advantage.