Buying Advice tier 4 diesel

[Rmart30]

If you can get by with a 25 HP tractor do it. Tier 4 is a nightmare. Have you noticed all the truck fires in the last 10 years compared to before. That is what causes them. The Regen gone wrong. At some point every DPF must be replaced or baked out. Big cost. The engines on the non tier 4 are mechanical injection. They must be electronic for tier 4 to work. Electronic is less reliable especially if not used every day and if you get bad fuel. Again big repair costs. I wanted a John Deere 2038 but got a 2025R instead for that reason. I drove a truck for over 1.5 million miles. It was never towed in. It was a 1999 and didn't have that garbage on it. The 2014 has been towed in 8 times and has less than 400,000 miles on it. Every tow due to emissions malfunction. It is typical of all the trucks in our fleet. A very large fleet.

I agree. I work on this garbage on most all brands of construction equipment. it all has its faults.

In short same as you i drive a 06 KW, last yr of tier 3... we bought identical 07 but it had tier 4 emissions ... i have 465,000 trouble free miles with just normal maintenance . The 07 has been nothing but trouble with ... wait for it ... emission system problems. Whuddathunkit.
I bought a new tractor in 2013 to beat the tier 4 emissions. Wont own one that has it on it.

 

[duramaxsky]

I agree. I work on this garbage on most all brands of construction equipment. it all has its faults.

In short same as you i drive a 06 KW, last yr of tier 3... we bought identical 07 but it had tier 4 emissions ... i have 465,000 trouble free miles with just normal maintenance . The 07 has been nothing but trouble with ... wait for it ... emission system problems. Whuddathunkit.
I bought a new tractor in 2013 to beat the tier 4 emissions. Wont own one that has it on it.

Yeah I will never own anything with it. My truck is a 2003. It's a Duramax diesel. It is expensive enouge dealing with the electronic injection. I will keep it as long as I can. I have had it since it was new. It will be replaced by a gasser when the time comes.

 

[5030]

The EPA really pooched the diesel engine. Never have a Tier 4 on this farm. My Kubby's (M's) are Tier 2 smokers. Just peachy with me.

 

[duramaxsky]

Diesels in Regen pollute way more than the ones just before them ever did. I truly believe that this is the EPAs way of damaging the trucking industry. It is the backbone of the economy. And the EPA is full of commies. When you get behind a truck in Regen it's like breathing kerosene.

 

[5030]

Diesels in Regen pollute way more than the ones just before them ever did. I truly believe that this is the EPAs way of damaging the trucking industry. It is the backbone of the economy. And the EPA is full of commies. When you get behind a truck in Regen it's like breathing kerosene.

But you cannot 'see' it. Outta sight, outta mind. The EPA isn't full of 'commies'. It's full of 'book smart' college educated people with no practical common sense. In other words, if it looks good on paper, it must be good to go and heck with the incurred expense for the end users.

Regen on a Class 8 diesel only 'stinks' when the dose rate is screwed up actually and that is quite often. Tractors, at least the ones most people have (below 90 horsepower I think), only have DPF and EGR systems, not DEF injection, so no stink, just collected and incinerated soot in the canister that at some point has the be cleaned or renewed (when the soot level exceeds a pre determined amount and the sensors detect too much of a pressure differential in it.