Buying Advice Tier V emission standards soon for new diesel engine tractors?

[5030]

Absolutely correct. My old Kubota came with a very fine strainer. It's so fine that you have to put fuel in very slow.

I still remember 50 yrs ago I was baling hay for the first time with an old IH. When I removed the gas cap it said in bold letters,"Buy Clean Fuel-Keep It Clean". Since then I try to keep it clean.

The ones I purchased from the Kubota dealer are pretty deep but I still have to be careful when filling them from the bulk tank and 'throttle' the nozzle back a bit or they tend to overflow and considering the cost of ULSD today, I don't need to put any on the ground.

I have one of those 'Mr. Funnels' as well. Problem is you always wind up with diesel in the bottom and you have to dump that out no matter what. I tend to use that when fueling my gas powered lawn equipment instead. Somewhere a while back I posted the part number for the filler neck filter element, think it's under 'Kubota owning and operating', not sure however. I really don't know why Kubota quit installing them on new tractors. They sure save a ton of grief, but then Kubota also quit installing bucket level indicators on their tractors a while ago as well. Of course you can still buy them (at extra cost) from the dealer (or make your own as the case may be). Sometimes I scratch my head over decisions manufacturers make. Like the new Kubota lever action FEL hookup deal that is a chronic leaker.

 

[oldrustysteel]

Absolutely it will. My bulk tank is 500 gallons btw and like Hay Dude, it always hurts to fill it, especially today with inflated fuel prices.

Lots of people run the 'Water Block' filters on their bulk tanks. Far as I'm concerned the Racor units are 10 times better. Like I said, the clone 'Racor' bases are a lot cheaper and the exact copy of the Racor unit as well. The Chinese are real good at copying stuff today. While I don't profess buying Chinese stuff and normally I don't, when you compare the costs of the Racor body to the clone body (which is an exact copy), in my view, the Chinese clone wins out, especially when they perfectly accept the Racor eleements.

Just keep in mind that they are ONLY for diesel fuel and not gasoline. You'll see bad reviews on Amazon concerning them but the idiots on there tried and failed to use them for gasoline. You put gas in one, all it does is destroy the plastic bottom bowl almost immediately and I noted that aspect in the reviews on their site. They plainly note 'diesel only' but I guess idiots cannot read but they sure can whine.

Marine diesel powered ships, both commercial and pleasure have used polishing filters for years to insure their fuel supply is clean and free from any water or debris. Marine diesels are just like your tractor, they are diesel powered. Of course large commercial marine diesels are burning bunker fuel so it has to be heated prior to filtering anyway and the Racor's on marine diesels are huge. You won't find any marine diesel without fuel polishing filters. SOP with them.

I actually have one on my Class 8 diesel truck as well, it was an option when I bought it.

Its a good day when I learn something, thanks!

 

[5030]

Its a good day when I learn something, thanks!

No problem. I deal with this stuff almost every day in one way or another. Heck, at 74, I still learn new stuff every day. When you quit learning about new stuff, you might as well be pushing up weeds.

My biggest issue is the ever increasing cost of materials and having to constantly adjust what I quote for jobs. I've taken no less that 8 increases in steel costs since last spring alone. Everyone of my customers always wants it for less. problem is, today, nothing costs less. I've actually quit quoting jobs where the potential customer wants it for 'less'. I cannot do that and stay in business, let alone pay my 2 employees. When I quote any job now, at the bottom of the quote, it plainly states 'Quoted price subject to change at any time due to increasing materials costs'.... and it does.

 

[ultrarunner]

First learned about fuel quality around marine diesels...

A good filter can be the difference from ending up on the rocks or not.

Not quite so dramatic with tractors.

One of the boats had parallel set ups so he could service on the fly.

It's been awhile but West Marine had good info in their literature for comparison purposes.

 

[5030]

First learned about fuel quality around marine diesels...

A good filter can be the difference from ending up on the rocks or not.

Not quite so dramatic with tractors.

One of the boats had parallel set ups so he could service on the fly.

It's been awhile but West Marine had good info in their literature for comparison purposes.

They still do and most marine setup's that I'm aware of use multiple units so if one gores off line, there is at least another one to back it up and I agree, not so critical with a tractor but by the same token, a compromised fuel system can and will lead to very expensive repairs, especially with the new common rail high pressure injection systems. Why take the chance, just install a competent filtering system instead. Not that expensive to begin with but the replacement parts for a fuel injection system surely is...

Like the poster with the 10 grand failure on here. He could have totally avoided that with a fuel polishing unit and lived happily every after. I'm pretty sure the dealer ate it or the OEM but he was still without his tractor and probably making payments anyway.

 

[ultrarunner]

Lost one Deere injection pump...

The rebuilder asked about fuel and I said we have been using free commercial grade bio diesel the last year...

His recommendation is to avoid...

A neighbor owned a company producing bio diesel and that company was heavy into sponsoring diesel racers for the Baja 500 and Mint 400 and would deliver a full barrel as needed.

During the pandemic the quantity of fryer grease nearly evaporated and the price of fuel plummeted

I have no idea if pump failure related or not to grease diesel.

Everyone did like the french fry smell!

 

[ultrarunner]

Henry Ford was quoted about carburetors saying don't fiddle and use only quality fuel avoids problems...

 

[oldrustysteel]

First learned about fuel quality around marine diesels...

A good filter can be the difference from ending up on the rocks or not.

Not quite so dramatic with tractors.

One of the boats had parallel set ups so he could service on the fly.

It's been awhile but West Marine had good info in their literature for comparison purposes.

I checked out West Marine. That is a nice website. Tons of parts and info.

 

[Zork]

So does the statement, "...The updated rules do not revise the 24-hour standard which is meant to account for short-term spikes in pollution. That will remain at 35 micrograms per cubic meter...." mean that all the billionaires can fly to Baku & Dubai in an empty jet so long as engine time is below 24 hours?

 

[walnutman]

The government forces innovation. But unfortunately they only approve the result, not so much the impact of getting there and the actual negatives that often outweigh the result.