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Yup, need to know more about the spacing, tile size, and type. Pics would help. Tiles should come off easily with a chisel and a little time.
Tile in shower question
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ok... tough to show the entire shower but here's what I've done and I've got more questions.
I've been able to take all the tiles off (wife changed her mind from 3 to all). All is defined as probably 9, all around the bottom edge. The picture will make it clear though you can't see them all.
My next post will describe the current "situation" and "problem" if indeed it is one.
I've been able to take all the tiles off (wife changed her mind from 3 to all). All is defined as probably 9, all around the bottom edge. The picture will make it clear though you can't see them all.
My next post will describe the current "situation" and "problem" if indeed it is one.
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ok, here's a closeup of a single tile space. Though you probalbly know (better than me) what is what here, I'll still try to describe everything.
On the wall is the Versabond thinset he used for the tile. On the top and right corners, are where the bond pulled the top layer of the Durrock away. The white square you see is just the price tag (or something) that was on the backside of the tile and stayed with the bond.
Now, here's where it gets interesting to me... on the wall is that burgandy sealent he used. If you look at the right corner of this tile you will see next to the Versabond, where the top layer of Durrock was pulled away. To the right of THAT rough area, you will see the smooth surface of the Durrock where some of the sealant he used pulled away.
Ok, "what to do"???
1. I'm thinking on taking something, perhaps a sander with coarse paper, to help knock down the residual Versabond.
2. Once done, take some more of that sealant and paint over the entire tile sections (they all look like this though this one is probably the worst of all)
3. What about where he taped the seams and the tape (like the corner area here) seems to have loosened up a bit? I ended up having to take a utility knife around the edges of these to help seperate them from the layer they were trying to pull up.
4. I told the wife (who is actually the one thinking we should do the above)...anyway, I said to her "no.... we can take the tiles off and this is where we then find a professional and ask him two questions,
a: Can/WILL you do this job?
b: "how much"
And in my opinion, the "how much" will now probably be MORE than it would have been, had we not had these issues.... frankly, I think we need to simply shut up and pay the piper to get it done right and NOT worry about trying to find the cheapest work (not to be confused with wanting to over pay for nothing,...but simply trying to find a TRUE tile guy who can do it right and pay him for his expertise)
So, I just took these off an hour ago and this is where we are....
Any wisdom?
On the wall is the Versabond thinset he used for the tile. On the top and right corners, are where the bond pulled the top layer of the Durrock away. The white square you see is just the price tag (or something) that was on the backside of the tile and stayed with the bond.
Now, here's where it gets interesting to me... on the wall is that burgandy sealent he used. If you look at the right corner of this tile you will see next to the Versabond, where the top layer of Durrock was pulled away. To the right of THAT rough area, you will see the smooth surface of the Durrock where some of the sealant he used pulled away.
Ok, "what to do"???
1. I'm thinking on taking something, perhaps a sander with coarse paper, to help knock down the residual Versabond.
2. Once done, take some more of that sealant and paint over the entire tile sections (they all look like this though this one is probably the worst of all)
3. What about where he taped the seams and the tape (like the corner area here) seems to have loosened up a bit? I ended up having to take a utility knife around the edges of these to help seperate them from the layer they were trying to pull up.
4. I told the wife (who is actually the one thinking we should do the above)...anyway, I said to her "no.... we can take the tiles off and this is where we then find a professional and ask him two questions,
a: Can/WILL you do this job?
b: "how much"
And in my opinion, the "how much" will now probably be MORE than it would have been, had we not had these issues.... frankly, I think we need to simply shut up and pay the piper to get it done right and NOT worry about trying to find the cheapest work (not to be confused with wanting to over pay for nothing,...but simply trying to find a TRUE tile guy who can do it right and pay him for his expertise)
So, I just took these off an hour ago and this is where we are....
Any wisdom?
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Hi Richard
1. I'm thinking on taking something, perhaps a sander with coarse paper, to help knock down the residual Versabond.
Yes you have to get the wall back smooth again. You can try with a hand stone like you use for masonary block.
2. Once done, take some more of that sealant and paint over the entire tile sections (they all look like this though this one is probably the worst of all)
Yep recoat all the bad spots again to seal it backup.
3. What about where he taped the seams and the tape (like the corner area here) seems to have loosened up a bit? I ended up having to take a utility knife around the edges of these to help seperate them from the layer they were trying to pull up.
If they are loose or bubbled up cut them open and reseal them to a tight seal.
4. I told the wife (who is actually the one thinking we should do the above)...anyway, I said to her "no.... we can take the tiles off and this is where we then find a professional and ask him two questions,
a: Can/WILL you do this job?
b: "how much"
A good tile installer can do what you want.
Price is specific to your area. Here in florida we get around 3.00 to 4.00 sf install labor only.
Hope this helps you some.
If you need any more info Ill be here.
Ron.
1. I'm thinking on taking something, perhaps a sander with coarse paper, to help knock down the residual Versabond.
Yes you have to get the wall back smooth again. You can try with a hand stone like you use for masonary block.
2. Once done, take some more of that sealant and paint over the entire tile sections (they all look like this though this one is probably the worst of all)
Yep recoat all the bad spots again to seal it backup.
3. What about where he taped the seams and the tape (like the corner area here) seems to have loosened up a bit? I ended up having to take a utility knife around the edges of these to help seperate them from the layer they were trying to pull up.
If they are loose or bubbled up cut them open and reseal them to a tight seal.
4. I told the wife (who is actually the one thinking we should do the above)...anyway, I said to her "no.... we can take the tiles off and this is where we then find a professional and ask him two questions,
a: Can/WILL you do this job?
b: "how much"
A good tile installer can do what you want.
Price is specific to your area. Here in florida we get around 3.00 to 4.00 sf install labor only.
Hope this helps you some.
If you need any more info Ill be here.
Ron.
