Tiller Tiller recommendations

   / Tiller recommendations #1  

rmonio

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New Market, MN
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JD 4600, JD B
I'm purchasing a Tiller for my JD4600 - is it advisable to always get one larger than the wheel base, or is it ok to be just a bit shorter?

I'm excited to get this as it will make my efforts in our very large garden much easier overall - especially with all of the manure being mixed in.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

-Bob
 
   / Tiller recommendations #2  
I think you mean wheel width, but, yes, generally that's what's desired in most implements- cover the width of your tracks. Some tillers, however, have offsets, which would allow you to run a narrower tiller and set it outside (usually to the right) your tractor's rear wheel.

I just ordered one for my B7800 (had been thinking about one for the NX, but it's got bigger work to do and I cannot justify a larger tiller at this time) and am looking forward to running it.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #3  
I used to have a 5 foot tiller offset on my 6 foot wide tractor. It worked fine but you have to till the garden like you do when you are plowing to cover your tracks. It becomes a pain. I finally traded it in for a tiller to cover my tracks and love it. No more tilling a certain way every time to make sure I cover the tire tracks. Cut down my tilling time a lot.

The 5ft tiller was a forward rotating tiller and my new 6ft tiller is a reverse rotating tiller. I personally liked the forward tilling better, but the reverse tiller does fine. Either way you decide to go you are going to love the tiller. No more plowing, discing, dragging. I do use s sub-soiler to break the ground before I till in the spring.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #4  
I have a garden spot, that I created, that has been neglected. I am trying to improve it, but it's been slow. I used a manual tiller once, and that was enough for me! (it was a commercial one, worked OK, but man, I probably spent more time cleaning it than I did using it!). I've since used my box blade with its rippers set to maximum depth to keep turning the ground. What started out as nasty, wet clay is now working up to be almost respectable: it was a huge debris pile that folks ended up tossing a bunch of trash into- this is why I've been slow to reclaim it, wanting to allow enough time for nasty crap to break down (been about four years, so I think I'm good to go for ramping things up).

I'll be getting a 60" tiller. B7800 is 54" wide.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #5  
My Yanmar ym276D has a Creeper gear in it. I have a 48" ??? 3pt tiller. In 1st creeper, it will bury that tiller, it is tilling down 15", I kid you not.....Love that Creeper Gear...

WHV1977 is right, offsetting can be a pain in the seat, altho I have only one garden, I till that is a pain for me. A garden that is out in the open is no problem, it's the one in a corner that is the pain, or a shed at one end.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #6  
Another post asked the same question. His wheel width was 73.5 inches and was looking at a 72 in. tiller or a 80 in. For 3/4" on each side of tire track, that will be covered Anyways, when you till, I would go with a 72.
A Tiller is the "HARDEST On Your Tractor", implement that you can put on your tractor. You can ACTUALLY HEAR your tractor Struggling to Operate it. Fall Down....that ground is HARD and your asking your tractor to mix up that dirt.
No wonder why a tilling tractor Smokes..

My garden is close to an Acre..hence the 3pt tiller... but I use a cultivator to loosen up the soil, Then I till it,. I just Hate the way my Engine sounds when I till...It sounds like Money being Ground Up in my wallet....UUUGGGHHH

Smokin'
 
   / Tiller recommendations #7  
General rule, cover your tracks.

Whats your track width? are your rims adjustable? Do you have any issues tilling all in the same direction?
 
   / Tiller recommendations #8  
Another post asked the same question. His wheel width was 73.5 inches and was looking at a 72 in. tiller or a 80 in. For 3/4" on each side of tire track, that will be covered Anyways, when you till, I would go with a 72.
A Tiller is the "HARDEST On Your Tractor", implement that you can put on your tractor. You can ACTUALLY HEAR your tractor Struggling to Operate it. Fall Down....that ground is HARD and your asking your tractor to mix up that dirt.
No wonder why a tilling tractor Smokes..

My garden is close to an Acre..hence the 3pt tiller... but I use a cultivator to loosen up the soil, Then I till it,. I just Hate the way my Engine sounds when I till...It sounds like Money being Ground Up in my wallet....UUUGGGHHH

Smokin'

I'll differ a bit and say that a box blade (with scarifiers dropped down) is harder on a tractor. Most tillers are forward running, which actually somewhat pushes the tractor forward: reverse tillers would be the exception, and I'd agree that these could be brutal. And then there's mowing really tall/thick grass: did some mowing at my neighbor's last Summer and found that that was the slowest I'd ever had to run my B7800 while cutting- I could see worms moving faster than me!:laughing:

It really all comes down to how big of a "bite" one is trying to take with their implement.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #9  
Tiller hardest on the tractor? Thats because everyone is running undersized rotary cutters and must only be cutting dandelions:D
 
   / Tiller recommendations #10  
I have never seen a box blade Shake a tractor as part of normal operation. Money ahead if you are tilling your own garden- pay someone.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #11  
I have never seen a box blade Shake a tractor as part of normal operation. Money ahead if you are tilling your own garden- pay someone.

Shaking is not the same as straining. Yeah, shaking will rattle things. Straining will rip things apart.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #12  
Never saw a Kubota with cement rebar welded to the back axle cases. Owner said it was shaking from his tiller that did it. Welded like spokes from the cases back to the axle- six per side.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #13  
Never saw a Kubota with cement rebar welded to the back axle cases. Owner said it was shaking from his tiller that did it. Welded like spokes from the cases back to the axle- six per side.

Well, there we go. Rototillers are bad for your tractor. Don't get one!;)
 
   / Tiller recommendations #14  
I'd say my 7 foot tiller is one of the easiest or tamest implements on my tractor. Maybe if I was breaking sod all the time I would think differently but for field work and gardens, I love running it. Quiet and relaxing.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #15  
I have never had my tractor shaking from tilling my garden. I have been tilling with my tractor for 8 years. When I am using the tiller I am in low range and running at 2450 rpm. I just take my time with it. Tractor turns it with no problem at all.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #16  
I have never had my tractor shaking from tilling my garden. I have been tilling with my tractor for 8 years. When I am using the tiller I am in low range and running at 2450 rpm. I just take my time with it. Tractor turns it with no problem at all.

Yeah, but have you welded rebar to your rear diff?:laughing:
 
   / Tiller recommendations #17  
What makes my tiller shake is roots, rocks and buried steel. Soil is relatively easy.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #18  
Get a tiller to cover your tire width. I purchased a 72" one last year and you can till any way you want. No compaction from running over partially re-tilled areas. You will be happy you did. As far as for being pushed by a forward tiller I have never experienced that feeling. I have been tilling for over 18 years now.
 
   / Tiller recommendations #19  
I have never seen a box blade Shake a tractor as part of normal operation. Money ahead if you are tilling your own garden- pay someone.

The difference tho....You can tighten up those bolts rattled loose by that Box, their on the outside....lol....that tiller is loosening all the bolts on the Inside.....I Hate Engine work...that was my DADS specialty and I never developed it....lol

You are right tho DB......smaller Bites make a World of difference.....

Smokin'
 
   / Tiller recommendations #20  
Depends on the cost differential. If your tractor has industrial tires that aren't adjustable you might save some money buying the 72" and a pair of new ag tires? On mine it made aabout 8" difference.
 
 

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