time between oil changes

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deerefan said:
yes it has the 5.3 and I've used 10w30 in everything I've owned. According to the manual, it is fine. Would I see a big diffeence in fuel mileage w/ 5w30?

You may but, I doubt that you would notice any difference. I know I didn't
 
   / time between oil changes #72  
Just a point about synthetic oils. There are good/better/best. The best is Group 4 PAO oils (polyalphaolephin), which are Mobil 1, Amsoil, Redline, and Royal Purple. Everything else that calls itself synthetic, even "full synthetic" is a Group 3 oil, which is super refined dino oil. Now, Group 3 oils are far better than the usual Group 2 "dino" oils. If GM's OLM is programmed with Group 2 oils, use it and you'll achieve the life GM has designed into its engines. If you want the best possible mileage/lowest wear/lowest cost ratio, use a PAO oil and used oil analysis.

It seems to me a nice compromise for those non oil-enthusiasts, is to use a Group 3 oil (Castrol, Quaker State, Penzoil synthetics, etc) and change it when the OLM says. This way you're changing the oil "early" so maximizing engine protection, you're keeping up with the GM warranty so no hassles if anything goes awry, and you're changing oil less often which is less hassle, and less used oil to dispose of so more kind to the environment.

My compromise is to use Amsoil Series 2000 Ow30, and change it once a year. I put their new nano-fibre oil filter in, which also only needs to be changed once a year. The oil is good for 35,000 miles normal service or 17,500 mile severe service, the oil filter for 25,000 miles or at oil change. Amsoil defines severe service as:

Turbo/supercharged vehicles, commercial or fleet vehicles, extensive engine idling, first and subsequent use of AMSOIL in vehicles with over 100,000 miles, daily short trip driving less than 10 miles (16 km), frequent towing, plowing, hauling or dusty condition driving.

I do none of those, so my recommended OCI is once a year, oil and filter. I like it.
 
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#73  
I've never seen amsoil in or around Baton rouge....where do you get it? I've never seen it at autozone or advanced auto
 
   / time between oil changes #74  
to change or not to change that is the question, lol.
i am now on my third gm truck with 6.0, i have always used sythetic blend mobil 1. I change my oil sometime with in a week of the light coming on and have for the entire time that I have driven these engines. Im lazy, i work on gm trucks all day long and dont really enjoy working on my own, by the same respect i never worried about engine failure because i have had a new 6.0 ready to install sitting there for years. I can't really recall any engine job on the new motors, since 99, that was due to an oil problem. I have seen 5.3 engine with over 250k on them still running strong and the same with 6.0's. Everyone has had some good input on this topic and just thought you might want to hear from a guy who deals with and drives these engines every day. change the oil when the light omes on and dont worry bout it, lol. Now i do use and will always use gm filters, ive seen problems with way to many aftermarket filters, spend the buck more and buy whats designed for your truck not whats designed to match a design for your truck only cheeper. The reason i use mobil syn blend is beacuse it was explained to me once that syn oil is a better lube but does not disipate heat as well as reg. oil. I have used it for years and have never had a problem but the kubota gets rotella only.

5/100 warranty on my new truck so who cares, lol
 
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deerefan said:
I've never seen amsoil in or around Baton rouge....where do you get it? I've never seen it at autozone or advanced auto

You can order it online at amsoil.com. Or , If you know of any dealers in your area you can purchase from them
 
   / time between oil changes #76  
I use Hydrotex syn 15w40 in a 1999 F250 diesel w 246000K and change every 20,000k it will use two quarts between changes I also have a 96 crown vic with approx the same on conventional oil that is changes every 5k and it does not use any oil to speak of in fact I don't add between changes. As far as the boil off I understand he was talking about the operating temp and once it achived and maintained for a long period the moisture is released. Driving hwy miles I would go at least 5k on conv oil and syn up to 20k

Just my two cents
 
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Marcussen said:
I have always changed oil at 5000 mile intervals. Never had any problems I usualy run my cars and trucks 200,000 miles plus. I recently switched to synthetic and are now doing 7500 between changes. I use the Pennzoil/Quacker state from Wal-Mart it's under $20 for 5 quarts.

If you use one of the extended life synthetics get an oil analysis when you change and you will probably end up going 10,000-15,000K or more between changes.


If you had a Toyota van from 1997 to 2001
or any Camry 4 cyl or V6 in those years
or any chrysler with a 2.7 litre
many Saab turbos or a
VW 1.8 litre turbo you would have taken away life from an engine that history has deemed a "sledge motor" by following that schedule.
Even the factory said go 7K.
How will one know if they have a sledge motor on a new design till its too late?
I vote for 3K or 3 months.
Synthetic is good too, but I'm not seeing any vehicle manufacturers give any 15K drain blessings.
 
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I think you meant "sludge" motors. Sledge motors are what you do to them when they blow up :)

Factory oil changes for the Audi 1.8 Turbo are now done with VW/Audi synthetic oil. So VW didn't reduce the drain intervals, they upped the quality of oil. BMW also got caught a few years ago, as their Deutsches engineers didn't realize the lower quality of average North American motor oil versus European oils.
 
   / time between oil changes #79  
I would think if "engine design A" had the same treatment as "engine B" oil change wise- and "engine design A" developed sludge, and history has proven it by the thousands- not just a couple drivers- it is a problem with engine design, lack of adequate PCV system and the like.
 
   / time between oil changes #80  
The water and water based contaminants "boil off" in the low 200 degree range.
The fuel based contaminants boil off in the 100 to 300 degree range.

When the engine oil never reaches the above mentioned temperatures, the "contaminations" remain and help to create other contaminations such as sulfuric acid and others.

Fact is - when in doubt - more frequent changes. Utilize oil anylasis to prove it to yourself. Don't take my word or the others here. Prove it yourself.

Bob
 

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