Time For An Oil Change
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MChalkley
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Wen - I think it's "reasonable", even if you pay retail for it. (That was for your benefit, Bird. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif)
Seriously, though, you can call Amsoil and ask for names of local dealers, order from them directly, or become a dealer yourself to get it at dealer prices. I chose the latter.
As for the hydraulic oil, with it holding that much, I'd send a sample off for analysis when it's time for the second change. If you change the filters at the normal intervals, you probably won't have to change it for 4 to 5 times the interval for petroleum. So, you'd end up saving money just on the oil, much less the reduced wear and better performance.
Mark
Seriously, though, you can call Amsoil and ask for names of local dealers, order from them directly, or become a dealer yourself to get it at dealer prices. I chose the latter.
As for the hydraulic oil, with it holding that much, I'd send a sample off for analysis when it's time for the second change. If you change the filters at the normal intervals, you probably won't have to change it for 4 to 5 times the interval for petroleum. So, you'd end up saving money just on the oil, much less the reduced wear and better performance.
Mark
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Guess NH and Kubota have had different experiences with 30W oil. Big difference in lowest temperature being 40 deg F or 77 deg F. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif The range of temps is where synthetics really win hands down.
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My dealer recommends 15w40 for year around operation. Said that's what they tell everyone. I did my 50 hour last month w/15x40 so I won't be able to test it in a Michigan winter until this winter. I don't have any kind of heater for the tractor but it's parked in the pole barn. Dealer said as long as it wasn't parked outside that I shouldn't have any problem starting and I didn't last winter. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
On paper 10w30 looks better for our climate!
I am considering Amsoil after it's properly broken in, I e-mailed the company and they had their closest dealer, in Vicksburg, e-mail me back with information to get ahold of him.
JimBinMI
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My dealer recommends 15w40 for year around operation. Said that's what they tell everyone. I did my 50 hour last month w/15x40 so I won't be able to test it in a Michigan winter until this winter. I don't have any kind of heater for the tractor but it's parked in the pole barn. Dealer said as long as it wasn't parked outside that I shouldn't have any problem starting and I didn't last winter. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
On paper 10w30 looks better for our climate!
I am considering Amsoil after it's properly broken in, I e-mailed the company and they had their closest dealer, in Vicksburg, e-mail me back with information to get ahold of him.
JimBinMI
We boys and our toys!
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And, make sure you know where the old gasket is. They tend to stick on the block if the last one wasn't lubed before installation.
The best place for used engine oil is a waste oil furnace. Wish I had one. The State of California identifies used engine oil as cancer causing--but who knows. A lot of people around here want to get rid of the stuff, and local garages charge for disposal.
I wonder if I can filter my used hydraulic oil and put it in my furnace tank. Think I'll ask the furnace guy about that one. It might be a really stupid idea.
Oil controversies: My brother-in-law has been talking oils a lot lately. He found a web site with a bunch of specs. He said that 5W 30 tests heavier than 10W 30 at operating temperature. If true, I wonder why the upper temperature range is lower for 5W 30 than for 10W 30.
The best place for used engine oil is a waste oil furnace. Wish I had one. The State of California identifies used engine oil as cancer causing--but who knows. A lot of people around here want to get rid of the stuff, and local garages charge for disposal.
I wonder if I can filter my used hydraulic oil and put it in my furnace tank. Think I'll ask the furnace guy about that one. It might be a really stupid idea.
Oil controversies: My brother-in-law has been talking oils a lot lately. He found a web site with a bunch of specs. He said that 5W 30 tests heavier than 10W 30 at operating temperature. If true, I wonder why the upper temperature range is lower for 5W 30 than for 10W 30.
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A NH dealer in NE Ontario recommends NH 0W 30 (for my 1710). Parts guy said the service manager uses it in all his own vehicles year around. He also said that he personally probably would use a summer weight oil if he was doing a lot of heavy pulling, but other than that, 0W 30.
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Wen, forget about reasonable cost, they just don't sell Amsoil in Northern California. I've personally contacted Amsoil and they told me they will send me a list of all the dealers in my area. Its been over a month. Yesterday I stopped by NAPA and the guy there said its impossible to find here. They carry a comparable product called Redline, but at 7.99 qt. for 15W40, I'll pass for now. Rat
richh
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Tom, DON'T try and burn your used oil in your #2 oil furnce!!BAD idea. I have a wast oil furnce and burning it takes a diff. kind of oil gun, you must preheat the oil have compress air,ect. There's more info on this search the archives under waste oil. Same for using waste oil for bar oil BAD idea. There is a reson they call it "waste".
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Thanks. That's what I figured, and I'll save the furnace guy from the question. However, with all the aggravation of living in the country and disposing of used oil, it is tempting to at least think of dumping 5 gallons of hydraulic oil into 200 gallons of furnace oil.
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Hi ya's
I'll go along with marks way of thinking but i'd do the samples at 1/2 or 1/4 changers.with hydro/trans the worst thing is water in the oil it can come from cleaning with water blasters or just heating and cooling .if your filters are changed at normal intervals and the sample come back clear you can strech out the changes .on the other note about useing old oil on chainsaw bars DON'T do it your chain will heat (hot eneff to take the tempour out of the cutting teeth)strech (also from heating )faster wear on the bar and sprockets ,also what no one has brought up is your oil pump will wear faster (been there done that
) working in the bush we used a good bar lube all the time and it made life just that much better
cya
JD Kid
I'll go along with marks way of thinking but i'd do the samples at 1/2 or 1/4 changers.with hydro/trans the worst thing is water in the oil it can come from cleaning with water blasters or just heating and cooling .if your filters are changed at normal intervals and the sample come back clear you can strech out the changes .on the other note about useing old oil on chainsaw bars DON'T do it your chain will heat (hot eneff to take the tempour out of the cutting teeth)strech (also from heating )faster wear on the bar and sprockets ,also what no one has brought up is your oil pump will wear faster (been there done that
) working in the bush we used a good bar lube all the time and it made life just that much better cya
JD Kid
