Diamondpilot
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- Daleville, IN
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- Jinma 254/284 Ford 861 Powermaster at work
As many of you may know I have had well more than my fair share of tire issues. I have a friend that has a boat that sits on a trailer sitting on tandem 6,000# axles with 225/75/15 Load range D tires. They are Goodyear Marathons, pure junk.
This spring he had a blow out so he put on the spare and the tire shop said there was another that looked bad. They installed 2 new Greenball Tow Masters and all is fine. Fast forward to yesterday. We are getting ready to take a trip, about 10 boats, 1000 miles of towing so he decided to change the other two Goodyears to Greenballs also. He goes to the tire shop where he got the other 2 a few months back and they no longer sell any trailer tires. They recommend he goes to a competitor down the road. This is where things get interesting.
First off this dealer flat refuses to sell Carlisle and Goodyear because they are just plain junk, same thing I have concluded. Next thing is he said most trailer tire blow outs can be traced back to the valve stems.:confused2:
Here is his take on it. First he says rubber valve stems are only rated to 50psi so Load Range C is the highest load range a rubber valve stem can handle. He said he did a test with a set of Trailer Tires Load Range D using rubber valve stems. He set the pressure to 65psi, the proper rating for the tire. He then drove and keep tabs on the pressure. As he drove and the tires heated up the pressure rose till it got to a point the valve stem started to fail and leak air out. No surprise but as we all know a under inflated tire will fail quickly. This is what he believes happens a vast majority of the time because most installer and customers do not know that the rubber valve stems have a 50psi limit.
He then did the same test with metal valve stems and the tires gained pressure as they heated up but stayed there. No problem because it clearly states to check the pressure cold. So yes, you may start with 65psi but in a few miles it may be 68psi. This is the way things are supposed to happen.
I checked all 3 of my trailers. One has load range C and two have load range D. Only one has metal valve stems. I think I will have the others changed to metal.
I also looked at my F-250, F-350, and Nissan Titan. Both Fords have load range E and metal valve stems and the Titan had load range D has metal also. So all 3 trucks are right.
Can someone educate me on valve stems? Funny that I have bought well over 100 sets of tires in my life, I am only 38, and of that 50 or so were trailer tires for me and my customers, and this is the first I have heard of this.
Chris
This spring he had a blow out so he put on the spare and the tire shop said there was another that looked bad. They installed 2 new Greenball Tow Masters and all is fine. Fast forward to yesterday. We are getting ready to take a trip, about 10 boats, 1000 miles of towing so he decided to change the other two Goodyears to Greenballs also. He goes to the tire shop where he got the other 2 a few months back and they no longer sell any trailer tires. They recommend he goes to a competitor down the road. This is where things get interesting.
First off this dealer flat refuses to sell Carlisle and Goodyear because they are just plain junk, same thing I have concluded. Next thing is he said most trailer tire blow outs can be traced back to the valve stems.:confused2:
Here is his take on it. First he says rubber valve stems are only rated to 50psi so Load Range C is the highest load range a rubber valve stem can handle. He said he did a test with a set of Trailer Tires Load Range D using rubber valve stems. He set the pressure to 65psi, the proper rating for the tire. He then drove and keep tabs on the pressure. As he drove and the tires heated up the pressure rose till it got to a point the valve stem started to fail and leak air out. No surprise but as we all know a under inflated tire will fail quickly. This is what he believes happens a vast majority of the time because most installer and customers do not know that the rubber valve stems have a 50psi limit.
He then did the same test with metal valve stems and the tires gained pressure as they heated up but stayed there. No problem because it clearly states to check the pressure cold. So yes, you may start with 65psi but in a few miles it may be 68psi. This is the way things are supposed to happen.
I checked all 3 of my trailers. One has load range C and two have load range D. Only one has metal valve stems. I think I will have the others changed to metal.
I also looked at my F-250, F-350, and Nissan Titan. Both Fords have load range E and metal valve stems and the Titan had load range D has metal also. So all 3 trucks are right.
Can someone educate me on valve stems? Funny that I have bought well over 100 sets of tires in my life, I am only 38, and of that 50 or so were trailer tires for me and my customers, and this is the first I have heard of this.
Chris